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From: "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/8] drivers:input:tsc2007: add new common binding names, pre-calibration, flipping and rotation
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 07:36:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0A33CCEA-448C-4C1D-9563-FDA54743BD01@goldelico.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKdAkRRZa-fpv_TKRdY=hFV3GdKxQ3muQORquvV_bTrDzQAhCw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

> Am 20.02.2017 um 22:50 schrieb Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>:
> 
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 1:27 PM, H. Nikolaus Schaller <hns@goldelico.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 20.02.2017 um 22:08 schrieb Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> On Monday 20 February 2017 20:42:15 Pali Rohár wrote:
>>>> Hi Nikolaus!
>>>> 
>>>> On Monday 20 February 2017 17:50:04 H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
>>>>> Hi Dmitry,
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Input driver may set resolution for given axis in units per mm
>>>>>> (or units per radian for rotational axis ABS_RX, ABS_RY,
>>>>>> ABS_RZ), and if you check the binding, you can use
>>>>>> "touchscreen-x-mm" and "touchscreen-y-mm" to specify the size of
>>>>>> entire touch surface and set resolution from it so that
>>>>>> userspace can calculate the proper scaling factor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How is this information exposed by the kernel to user-space? By
>>>>> scanning the DT file or tree?
>>>> 
>>>> Set input_abs_set_res() from kernel. And in userspace call EVIOCGABS
>>>> ioctl() on input device. Look at struct input_absinfo, you should
>>>> have all needed information here. This is generic input interface,
>>>> no DT is needed.
>>> 
>>> Looking at kernel code... via EVIOCSABS ioctl() you can even set
>>> resolution from userspace for specified input device.
>>> 
>>> So this could be potentially used for calibrating input device from
>>> userspace? (In case DT data will not fully match current HW)
>>> 
>>>> I hope that XServer is already using it for evdev devices...
>>>> 
>>>> For whole implementation look at evtest program. That should be good
>>>> starting point for your userspace implementation.
>>>> 
>>>> While I'm watching this discussion... in my opinion kernel should
>>>> just invert input axes (when needed)
>> 
>> It is questionable why it should do that at all then.
> 
> Because the task of the kernel is to provide unified view of the
> hardware. Axis swapping and inversion is needed to that "up" is always
> "up" and "right" is always "right".

Hm. Why not touching pixel (0,0) on the touch is always pixel (0,0) on the
screen and touching pixel (639,479) is always (639,479)?

I think it is time to end this discussion.

It has show me how much a mess and half-baked area this is, which I did
not expect. I read contradicting messages from different people:

* don't break user space because it is carved in stone
* fix users space if you want to do it properly
* scaling by +/-1 and shifting by full range is ok
* scaling by ts-size/adc-range and shifting by adc_min is not ok
* full numeric ADC resolution is required but subpixel coordinates is not acceptable

I will monitor this to see if this becomes sorted out before submitting anything
new.

BR and thanks,
Nikolaus

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-21  6:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-28 14:53 [PATCH v9 0/8] drivers: touchscreen: tsc2007 and ads7846/tsc2046 improvements (use common touchscreen bindings, pre-calibration, spi fix and provide iio raw values) H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-12-28 14:53 ` [PATCH v9 1/8] drivers:input:tsc2007: add new common binding names, pre-calibration, flipping and rotation H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-01-09 17:43   ` Rob Herring
2017-01-28 19:33   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-01-28 21:44     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-17 20:40       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-02-18  3:22         ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-02-18 11:33           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-18 23:44             ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-02-19 12:07               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-19 20:15                 ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-02-20 16:49                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-18  7:45         ` [Letux-kernel] " Andreas Kemnade
2017-02-18  9:15         ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-18 11:33           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-18 18:08             ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-18 19:17               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-18 22:54                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-19 12:05                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-19 14:17                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-19 17:04                       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-19 17:15                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-19 17:51                           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-19 19:05                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-19 19:31                               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-19 20:57                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-19 22:01                                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-19 22:19                                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-20 16:50                                       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 19:29                                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-20 20:20                                           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 22:26                                         ` Petr Cvek
2017-02-21  8:29                                           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-19 22:29                                   ` [Letux-kernel] " Andreas Kemnade
2017-02-19 22:39                                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-20 16:50                                       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 19:32                                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-20 20:22                                           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 20:50                                             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-18 11:32         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20  1:07           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-02-20 16:50             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 19:42               ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-20 20:35                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 21:07                   ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-20 21:24                     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 21:54                       ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-21  6:42                         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-21  8:53                           ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-20 21:08                 ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-20 21:27                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 21:50                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-02-20 22:21                       ` Petr Cvek
2017-02-20 22:24                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-02-21  6:56                           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 22:45                         ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-21  6:36                       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller [this message]
2017-02-21  9:09                         ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-21 17:07                           ` [Letux-kernel] " Andreas Kemnade
2017-02-20 22:04                     ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-21  6:49                       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-21  7:14                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-21  8:47                   ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-21  8:57                     ` [Letux-kernel] " Christ van Willegen
2017-02-21 11:07               ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-28 14:53 ` [PATCH v9 2/8] drivers:input:tsc2007: check for presence and power down tsc2007 during probe H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-17 20:52   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-12-28 14:53 ` [PATCH v9 3/8] DT:omap3+tsc2007: use new common touchscreen bindings H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-12-28 14:53 ` [PATCH v9 4/8] drivers:input:ads7846(+tsc2046): add new common binding names, pre-calibration and flipping H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-12-28 14:53 ` [PATCH v9 5/8] dt-bindings: input: move ads7846 bindings to touchscreen subdirectory H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-23  9:54   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-12-28 14:53 ` [PATCH v9 6/8] drivers:input:ads7846(+tsc2046): fix spi module table H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-01-28 19:35   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-01-29  8:39     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-01-29 18:01       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-01-29 18:25         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-01 20:20           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-01 21:14             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-02-01 22:28               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-02-01 22:50                 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-02-02  5:47                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-12-28 14:53 ` [PATCH v9 7/8] DT:omap3+ads7846: use new common touchscreen bindings H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-12-28 14:53 ` [PATCH v9 8/8] drivers:input:tsc2007: add iio interface to read external ADC input and temperature H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-12-30 20:36   ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-02-17 21:27     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-02-18 11:35       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-01-16  6:34 ` [PATCH v9 0/8] drivers: touchscreen: tsc2007 and ads7846/tsc2046 improvements (use common touchscreen bindings, pre-calibration, spi fix and provide iio raw values) H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-01-21 13:08   ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-01-21 13:17     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-01-28 18:16       ` [Letux-kernel] " H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-12 15:18         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-15 14:03           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-17 20:43             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-02-18 11:30               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller

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