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From: Andreas Kemnade <andreas@kemnade.info>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>,
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Subject: Re: [Letux-kernel] [PATCH v9 1/8] drivers:input:tsc2007: add new common binding names, pre-calibration, flipping and rotation
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 23:29:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170219232918.53801560@aktux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170219205708.GA9641@amd>

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Hi,

On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:57:08 +0100
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> 
> > But as said I don't think we need float or fixed point for
> > practical systems at all.
> 
> So you are going to loose precision. And if userspace decides to
> calibrate it slightly differently from kernel, lost precision will
> matter.
> 
> > >>> and floating point in kernel is hard. Also
> > >>> you'd either have to invent new interface, or you'd break
> > >>> touchscreen for people that already have their touchscreens
> > >>> calibrated.
> > >> 
> > >> No, I don't break calibration for people using a different chip.
> > > 
> > > So you propose your touchscreen to behave differently from all
> > > other touchscreens in tree?
> > 
> > No. I only propose that my touch screen behaves properly and in the
> > best way it can. If others are worse, they should also be improved
> > at some time.
> 
> Different from all other drivers. Read: broken.
> 
> No. You have to design interface such that they _can_ be improved, and
> what you propose does not work that way. 
> 
Then the consequent way would be to use i2c directly from userspace.
Because maybe for some really, really unusual you can do
something better there. Maybe adjust on-chip filtering (here the
MAV-filter) to interact better with your userspace filtering or
something like that if you want to exactly detect where maybe a
mosquito tries to drill into your touch screen (if the pressure would
be enough...) 

> > And note that I am not making things different from others in tree,
> > I am making the tsc2007 right (incl. following the touchscreen
> > bindings which define the touchscreen size in "Pixels").
> 
> Your touch screen is not in any way special, so it has to behave in
> the same way others do.
> 

I agree, the tsc2007 (=what the interface provides to userspace) should
not behave special, for example it should behave like the virtual
touchscreen (=what the interface provides to userspace) virtualbox
gives. No need to be calibrated. Well, the internals are different. But
that is what the kernel is good for, abstract such things.
Conclusion: It cannot be totally wrong behavior to have pixel values
there.

And the generic touchscreen bindings describe the size in "Pixels" as
said by Nikolaus,

And here it is up to the dt to decide whether the touch screen is good
enough in position so it does not need to be manually calibrated or
there are chances to improve something. If there is no calibration in
the dt, then nothing changes.

Regards,
Andreas



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-19 22:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-28 14:53 [PATCH v9 0/8] drivers: touchscreen: tsc2007 and ads7846/tsc2046 improvements (use common touchscreen bindings, pre-calibration, spi fix and provide iio raw values) H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-12-28 14:53 ` [PATCH v9 1/8] drivers:input:tsc2007: add new common binding names, pre-calibration, flipping and rotation H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-01-09 17:43   ` Rob Herring
2017-01-28 19:33   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-01-28 21:44     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-17 20:40       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-02-18  3:22         ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-02-18 11:33           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-18 23:44             ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-02-19 12:07               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-19 20:15                 ` Sebastian Reichel
2017-02-20 16:49                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-18  7:45         ` [Letux-kernel] " Andreas Kemnade
2017-02-18  9:15         ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-18 11:33           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-18 18:08             ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-18 19:17               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-18 22:54                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-19 12:05                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-19 14:17                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-19 17:04                       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-19 17:15                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-19 17:51                           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-19 19:05                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-19 19:31                               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-19 20:57                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-19 22:01                                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-19 22:19                                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-20 16:50                                       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 19:29                                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-20 20:20                                           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 22:26                                         ` Petr Cvek
2017-02-21  8:29                                           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-19 22:29                                   ` Andreas Kemnade [this message]
2017-02-19 22:39                                     ` [Letux-kernel] " Pavel Machek
2017-02-20 16:50                                       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 19:32                                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-20 20:22                                           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 20:50                                             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-18 11:32         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20  1:07           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-02-20 16:50             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 19:42               ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-20 20:35                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 21:07                   ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-20 21:24                     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 21:54                       ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-21  6:42                         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-21  8:53                           ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-20 21:08                 ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-20 21:27                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 21:50                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-02-20 22:21                       ` Petr Cvek
2017-02-20 22:24                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-02-21  6:56                           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-20 22:45                         ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-21  6:36                       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-21  9:09                         ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-21 17:07                           ` [Letux-kernel] " Andreas Kemnade
2017-02-20 22:04                     ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-21  6:49                       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-21  7:14                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-21  8:47                   ` Pali Rohár
2017-02-21  8:57                     ` [Letux-kernel] " Christ van Willegen
2017-02-21 11:07               ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-28 14:53 ` [PATCH v9 2/8] drivers:input:tsc2007: check for presence and power down tsc2007 during probe H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-17 20:52   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-12-28 14:53 ` [PATCH v9 3/8] DT:omap3+tsc2007: use new common touchscreen bindings H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-12-28 14:53 ` [PATCH v9 4/8] drivers:input:ads7846(+tsc2046): add new common binding names, pre-calibration and flipping H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-12-28 14:53 ` [PATCH v9 5/8] dt-bindings: input: move ads7846 bindings to touchscreen subdirectory H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-23  9:54   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-12-28 14:53 ` [PATCH v9 6/8] drivers:input:ads7846(+tsc2046): fix spi module table H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-01-28 19:35   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-01-29  8:39     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-01-29 18:01       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-01-29 18:25         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-01 20:20           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-01 21:14             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-02-01 22:28               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-02-01 22:50                 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2017-02-02  5:47                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-12-28 14:53 ` [PATCH v9 7/8] DT:omap3+ads7846: use new common touchscreen bindings H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-12-28 14:53 ` [PATCH v9 8/8] drivers:input:tsc2007: add iio interface to read external ADC input and temperature H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-12-30 20:36   ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-02-17 21:27     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-02-18 11:35       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-01-16  6:34 ` [PATCH v9 0/8] drivers: touchscreen: tsc2007 and ads7846/tsc2046 improvements (use common touchscreen bindings, pre-calibration, spi fix and provide iio raw values) H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-01-21 13:08   ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-01-21 13:17     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-01-28 18:16       ` [Letux-kernel] " H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-12 15:18         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-15 14:03           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-02-17 20:43             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-02-18 11:30               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller

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