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From: Jim Gettys <jg@laptop.org>
To: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Ash Milsted <thatistosayiseenem@gawab.com>,
	dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz <arekm@maven.pl>,
	linux-pm@lists.osdl.org, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
	Alexey Starikovskiy <alexey.y.starikovskiy@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Jeff Chua <jeff.chua.linux@gmail.com>,
	Meelis Roos <mroos@linux.ee>,
	Janosch Machowinski <jmachowinski@gmx.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Thomas Meyer <thomas.mey@web.de>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@mellanox.co.il>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [2/6] 2.6.21-rc2: known regressions
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:08:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1174342101.6832.173.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45FEF395.9050409@tmr.com>

On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 16:33 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:

> 
> What you say sounds good, assuming that the cost of a sleep is less than 
> the cost of the busy wait. But this may be hardware, the waits may be 
> very small and frequent, and if it's hitting a small hardware window 
> like retrace, delays in response will cause the time period to be missed 
> completely. This probably less critical with very smart cards, many of 
> us don't run them.
> > 

Actually, various strategies involving short busy waiting, or looking at
DMA address registers before sleeping were commonplace.  But a
syscall/sleep/wakeup is/was pretty fast.  If you have an operation
blitting the screen (e.g. scrolling), it takes a bit of time for the GPU
to execute the command.  I see this right now on OLPC, where a wonderful
music application needs to scroll (most of) the screen left),
periodically, and we're losing samples sometimes at those operation.

Remember also, that being nice to everyone else by sleeping, there are
more cycles to go around, and the scheduler can nicely boost the X
server's priority as it will for "interactive" processes that are being
cooperative.
                                - Jim

-- 
Jim Gettys
One Laptop Per Child



  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-19 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 187+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-28  5:16 Linux 2.6.21-rc2 Linus Torvalds
2007-02-28  5:50 ` Gabriel C
2007-02-28  7:13 ` [PATCH] affinity is not defined in non-smp kernels - i386 Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2007-02-28  7:16   ` [PATCH] affinity is not defined in non-smp kernels - i386 (v2) Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2007-02-28  7:24   ` [PATCH] affinity is not defined in non-smp kernels - i386 Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-28 17:31     ` Bill Davidsen
2007-02-28 18:21       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-28 18:30       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-28  7:42   ` [PATCH] affinity is not defined in non-smp kernels - i386 (v2) Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2007-02-28  7:17 ` [PATCH] affinity is not defined in non-smp kernels - x86_64 Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2007-02-28  7:23 ` Linux 2.6.21-rc2 David Brown
2007-02-28  7:39 ` Brice Goglin
2007-02-28 13:09   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-28 16:44     ` David Brown
2007-02-28 17:07       ` Randy Dunlap
2007-02-28  7:41 ` [PATCH] affinity is not defined in non-smp kernels - x86_64 Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2007-02-28  7:59 ` Linux 2.6.21-rc2 Damien Wyart
2007-03-05  1:50 ` [1/6] 2.6.21-rc2: known regressions Adrian Bunk
2007-03-05  2:26   ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-05  3:35   ` Greg KH
2007-03-06  0:55     ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-05  4:01   ` Mark Lord
2007-03-05  4:34     ` Greg KH
2007-03-05 12:42       ` Marcel Holtmann
2007-03-05  4:34   ` [BUG} usb regression in 2.6.21-rc2-git3 Mark Lord
2007-03-05  4:37     ` [BUG] sdhci regression in 2.6.21-rc2 Mark Lord
2007-03-05  5:36       ` Pierre Ossman
2007-03-05 14:25         ` Mark Lord
2007-03-05 15:19           ` Mark Lord
2007-03-06  4:17             ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-06  5:47               ` Pierre Ossman
2007-03-06  6:09                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-06  7:23                   ` Pierre Ossman
2007-03-05 15:20           ` Pierre Ossman
2007-03-05 15:23             ` Pierre Ossman
2007-03-05 15:35               ` Mark Lord
2007-03-05 16:00                 ` Pierre Ossman
2007-03-05 16:18                   ` Mark Lord
2007-03-05  4:43     ` [BUG} usb regression in 2.6.21-rc2-git3 Mark Lord
2007-03-12 14:56     ` [BUG} usb-serial " Mark Lord
2007-03-12 15:06       ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-12 15:13         ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 15:27           ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-12 15:29           ` Greg KH
2007-03-12 15:38             ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-12 16:03             ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 16:10               ` Greg KH
2007-03-12 16:22                 ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 16:11               ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 16:14                 ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 16:27                   ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 16:50                     ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 18:48                       ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-12 20:22                         ` [PATCH] usb-serial regression (Oops) in 2.6.21-rc* Mark Lord
2007-03-12 20:33                           ` Greg KH
2007-03-12 22:20                             ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 22:42                             ` Jim Radford
2007-03-12 22:59                               ` [PATCH] usb-serial regression fix Jim Radford
2007-03-13  0:18                                 ` Greg KH
2007-03-13  0:41                                   ` Jim Radford
2007-03-13  1:55                                     ` Mark Lord
2007-03-13  9:14                                       ` Jim Radford
2007-03-13 10:14                                         ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-13 13:39                                           ` Mark Lord
2007-03-13 13:50                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-13 13:55                                         ` Mark Lord
2007-03-13 15:30                                           ` Jim Radford
2007-03-13 16:35                                             ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 16:28                 ` [BUG} usb-serial regression in 2.6.21-rc2-git3 Oliver Neukum
2007-03-12 15:31       ` Greg KH
2007-03-07 11:06   ` [1/6] 2.6.21-rc2: known regressions Jeff Garzik
2007-03-07 22:17     ` Albert Hopkins
2007-03-05  1:50 ` [2/6] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-07 11:09   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-03-07 16:10     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-08 12:03     ` Ash Milsted
2007-03-08 12:31   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-08 15:11     ` Jeff Chua
2007-03-08 18:01     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-08 19:06       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 19:10         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 19:47         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-08 20:10           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 19:25       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 23:07         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 23:12           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 23:28             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 23:49           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09 10:56             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 18:00               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09 11:19             ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-18 16:07               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-18 16:40                 ` [linux-pm] " Jim Gettys
2007-03-19 19:08                   ` BSOD (was: [2/6] 2.6.21-rc2: known regressions) Pete Zaitcev
2007-03-19 19:38                     ` BSOD David Miller
2007-03-19 19:54                       ` BSOD Jesse Barnes
2007-03-19 20:05                         ` BSOD David Miller
2007-03-19 20:20                           ` BSOD Jesse Barnes
2007-03-19 20:20                           ` BSOD Jim Gettys
2007-03-20  9:19                           ` BSOD Paul Mackerras
2007-03-20 20:33                             ` BSOD Jim Gettys
2007-03-19 20:33                   ` [linux-pm] [2/6] 2.6.21-rc2: known regressions Bill Davidsen
2007-03-19 22:08                     ` Jim Gettys [this message]
2007-03-20 14:44                       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-09 17:48             ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-03-09 23:35               ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-10  9:01                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-10 11:43                   ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-03-10 13:53                     ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-03-10 15:18                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-10 22:08                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-11  8:20                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-12  6:34                           ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-03-10 22:04                   ` s2ram (was Re: [2/6] 2.6.21-rc2: known regressions) Pavel Machek
2007-03-08 19:46       ` [2/6] 2.6.21-rc2: known regressions Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-08 19:57       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]         ` <20070311120802.GA8823@elte.hu>
2007-03-12 20:20           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-17 21:41             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-17 22:33               ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-21 17:28                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-05  1:50 ` [3/6] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-05  3:58   ` Michal Jaegermann
2007-03-06 17:08   ` Alan Cox
2007-03-07 11:12   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-03-10  1:09     ` Mathieu Bérard
2007-03-10  4:11       ` and try remove another quirk on this computers " Sergio Monteiro Basto
2007-03-10  5:41         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-11  4:32           ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2007-03-12 11:37       ` Tejun Heo
2007-03-13 12:31         ` Mathieu Bérard
2007-03-13 12:41           ` Tejun Heo
2007-03-13 20:56             ` Mathieu Bérard
2007-03-14  6:07               ` Tejun Heo
2007-03-14 10:49                 ` Mathieu Bérard
2007-03-05  1:50 ` [4/6] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-05 10:35   ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-03-05 15:06     ` Andrew
2007-03-08 23:28     ` Len Brown
2007-03-09 19:25       ` Andrew
2007-03-05 12:21   ` Richard Purdie
2007-03-05  1:50 ` [5/6] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-05  7:57   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05  8:13     ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-05 15:25       ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-05 15:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 16:42           ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-05 19:30             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 16:14     ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-05 16:21       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 23:12     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-05 23:43   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-05 23:45     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06  0:25       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-06  6:49         ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2007-03-06  7:49           ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2007-03-06  0:38       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06  1:02         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-06  1:31           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06  2:18             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06  7:25               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06  8:09                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-06 10:33               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-06 10:37                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 10:46                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-06 11:32                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 12:20                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-06 16:44                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06 17:05                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 17:29                         ` [PATCH] highres: do not run the TIMER_SOFTIRQ after switching to highres mode Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-06 17:41                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-16 15:18                         ` [5/6] 2.6.21-rc2: known regressions Randy Dunlap
2007-03-06 11:36                     ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2007-03-06 12:07                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 12:15                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-06 12:51                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 12:55                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-06 13:03                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 13:09                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-06 12:09                       ` Jeff Chua
2007-03-11 17:32                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-06 10:33               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-05  1:50 ` [6/6] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-05  2:07   ` David Miller
2007-03-05  2:26     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-05  2:29       ` David Miller
2007-03-05  4:42       ` David Miller
2007-03-05  3:32   ` Greg KH

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