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From: Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev@redhat.com>
To: jg@laptop.org
Cc: zaitcev@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: BSOD (was: [2/6] 2.6.21-rc2: known regressions)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:08:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070319120807.af36ef5d.zaitcev@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1174236045.6832.9.camel@localhost>

On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:40:45 -0400, Jim Gettys <jg@laptop.org> wrote:

> Also more seriously, a somewhat hybrid approach is in order for mode
> setting: simple mode setting isn't much code and is required for sane
> behavior on crash (it is nice to get oopses onto a screen); but the full
> blown mode setting/configuration problem is so large that on some
> hardware, it is likely left best left to a helper process (not the X
> server).

Jim, I doubt that a mode switch on oops is a good idea. Maybe I'm unlucky,
but in my experience, it often is the case that systems fail to switch
to text mode for shutdown. What is amazing, the very same systems switch
to text mode on <Alt>F1 just fine, and then back to <Alt>F7!
I would hazard a guess that this happens because nobody cares
about shutdown modes to fix them. But then the same is true for
crashes.

I understand that you have your own experience, but thought to note
this all the same.

>From the constructive angle, I think that a crash should render into
existing mode, into the currently mapped frame buffer. This is the
only way how it can be made to work reliably.

Yours,
-- Pete

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-19 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 187+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-28  5:16 Linux 2.6.21-rc2 Linus Torvalds
2007-02-28  5:50 ` Gabriel C
2007-02-28  7:13 ` [PATCH] affinity is not defined in non-smp kernels - i386 Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2007-02-28  7:16   ` [PATCH] affinity is not defined in non-smp kernels - i386 (v2) Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2007-02-28  7:24   ` [PATCH] affinity is not defined in non-smp kernels - i386 Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-28 17:31     ` Bill Davidsen
2007-02-28 18:21       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-28 18:30       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-02-28  7:42   ` [PATCH] affinity is not defined in non-smp kernels - i386 (v2) Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2007-02-28  7:17 ` [PATCH] affinity is not defined in non-smp kernels - x86_64 Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2007-02-28  7:23 ` Linux 2.6.21-rc2 David Brown
2007-02-28  7:39 ` Brice Goglin
2007-02-28 13:09   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-02-28 16:44     ` David Brown
2007-02-28 17:07       ` Randy Dunlap
2007-02-28  7:41 ` [PATCH] affinity is not defined in non-smp kernels - x86_64 Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2007-02-28  7:59 ` Linux 2.6.21-rc2 Damien Wyart
2007-03-05  1:50 ` [1/6] 2.6.21-rc2: known regressions Adrian Bunk
2007-03-05  2:26   ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-05  3:35   ` Greg KH
2007-03-06  0:55     ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-05  4:01   ` Mark Lord
2007-03-05  4:34     ` Greg KH
2007-03-05 12:42       ` Marcel Holtmann
2007-03-05  4:34   ` [BUG} usb regression in 2.6.21-rc2-git3 Mark Lord
2007-03-05  4:37     ` [BUG] sdhci regression in 2.6.21-rc2 Mark Lord
2007-03-05  5:36       ` Pierre Ossman
2007-03-05 14:25         ` Mark Lord
2007-03-05 15:19           ` Mark Lord
2007-03-06  4:17             ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-06  5:47               ` Pierre Ossman
2007-03-06  6:09                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-06  7:23                   ` Pierre Ossman
2007-03-05 15:20           ` Pierre Ossman
2007-03-05 15:23             ` Pierre Ossman
2007-03-05 15:35               ` Mark Lord
2007-03-05 16:00                 ` Pierre Ossman
2007-03-05 16:18                   ` Mark Lord
2007-03-05  4:43     ` [BUG} usb regression in 2.6.21-rc2-git3 Mark Lord
2007-03-12 14:56     ` [BUG} usb-serial " Mark Lord
2007-03-12 15:06       ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-12 15:13         ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 15:27           ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-12 15:29           ` Greg KH
2007-03-12 15:38             ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-12 16:03             ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 16:10               ` Greg KH
2007-03-12 16:22                 ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 16:11               ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 16:14                 ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 16:27                   ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 16:50                     ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 18:48                       ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-12 20:22                         ` [PATCH] usb-serial regression (Oops) in 2.6.21-rc* Mark Lord
2007-03-12 20:33                           ` Greg KH
2007-03-12 22:20                             ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 22:42                             ` Jim Radford
2007-03-12 22:59                               ` [PATCH] usb-serial regression fix Jim Radford
2007-03-13  0:18                                 ` Greg KH
2007-03-13  0:41                                   ` Jim Radford
2007-03-13  1:55                                     ` Mark Lord
2007-03-13  9:14                                       ` Jim Radford
2007-03-13 10:14                                         ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-13 13:39                                           ` Mark Lord
2007-03-13 13:50                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-13 13:55                                         ` Mark Lord
2007-03-13 15:30                                           ` Jim Radford
2007-03-13 16:35                                             ` Mark Lord
2007-03-12 16:28                 ` [BUG} usb-serial regression in 2.6.21-rc2-git3 Oliver Neukum
2007-03-12 15:31       ` Greg KH
2007-03-07 11:06   ` [1/6] 2.6.21-rc2: known regressions Jeff Garzik
2007-03-07 22:17     ` Albert Hopkins
2007-03-05  1:50 ` [2/6] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-07 11:09   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-03-07 16:10     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-08 12:03     ` Ash Milsted
2007-03-08 12:31   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-08 15:11     ` Jeff Chua
2007-03-08 18:01     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-08 19:06       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 19:10         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 19:47         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-08 20:10           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 19:25       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 23:07         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 23:12           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 23:28             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 23:49           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09 10:56             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 18:00               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09 11:19             ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-18 16:07               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-18 16:40                 ` [linux-pm] " Jim Gettys
2007-03-19 19:08                   ` Pete Zaitcev [this message]
2007-03-19 19:38                     ` BSOD David Miller
2007-03-19 19:54                       ` BSOD Jesse Barnes
2007-03-19 20:05                         ` BSOD David Miller
2007-03-19 20:20                           ` BSOD Jesse Barnes
2007-03-19 20:20                           ` BSOD Jim Gettys
2007-03-20  9:19                           ` BSOD Paul Mackerras
2007-03-20 20:33                             ` BSOD Jim Gettys
2007-03-19 20:33                   ` [linux-pm] [2/6] 2.6.21-rc2: known regressions Bill Davidsen
2007-03-19 22:08                     ` Jim Gettys
2007-03-20 14:44                       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-09 17:48             ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-03-09 23:35               ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-10  9:01                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-10 11:43                   ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-03-10 13:53                     ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-03-10 15:18                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-10 22:08                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-11  8:20                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-12  6:34                           ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-03-10 22:04                   ` s2ram (was Re: [2/6] 2.6.21-rc2: known regressions) Pavel Machek
2007-03-08 19:46       ` [2/6] 2.6.21-rc2: known regressions Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-08 19:57       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]         ` <20070311120802.GA8823@elte.hu>
2007-03-12 20:20           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-17 21:41             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-17 22:33               ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-21 17:28                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-05  1:50 ` [3/6] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-05  3:58   ` Michal Jaegermann
2007-03-06 17:08   ` Alan Cox
2007-03-07 11:12   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-03-10  1:09     ` Mathieu Bérard
2007-03-10  4:11       ` and try remove another quirk on this computers " Sergio Monteiro Basto
2007-03-10  5:41         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-11  4:32           ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2007-03-12 11:37       ` Tejun Heo
2007-03-13 12:31         ` Mathieu Bérard
2007-03-13 12:41           ` Tejun Heo
2007-03-13 20:56             ` Mathieu Bérard
2007-03-14  6:07               ` Tejun Heo
2007-03-14 10:49                 ` Mathieu Bérard
2007-03-05  1:50 ` [4/6] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-05 10:35   ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-03-05 15:06     ` Andrew
2007-03-08 23:28     ` Len Brown
2007-03-09 19:25       ` Andrew
2007-03-05 12:21   ` Richard Purdie
2007-03-05  1:50 ` [5/6] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-05  7:57   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05  8:13     ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-05 15:25       ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-05 15:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 16:42           ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-05 19:30             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 16:14     ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-05 16:21       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-05 23:12     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-05 23:43   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-05 23:45     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06  0:25       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-06  6:49         ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2007-03-06  7:49           ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2007-03-06  0:38       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06  1:02         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-06  1:31           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06  2:18             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06  7:25               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06  8:09                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-06 10:33               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-06 10:37                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 10:46                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-06 11:32                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 12:20                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-06 16:44                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-06 17:05                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 17:29                         ` [PATCH] highres: do not run the TIMER_SOFTIRQ after switching to highres mode Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-06 17:41                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-16 15:18                         ` [5/6] 2.6.21-rc2: known regressions Randy Dunlap
2007-03-06 11:36                     ` Soeren Sonnenburg
2007-03-06 12:07                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 12:15                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-06 12:51                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 12:55                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-06 13:03                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-06 13:09                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-06 12:09                       ` Jeff Chua
2007-03-11 17:32                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-06 10:33               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2007-03-05  1:50 ` [6/6] " Adrian Bunk
2007-03-05  2:07   ` David Miller
2007-03-05  2:26     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-05  2:29       ` David Miller
2007-03-05  4:42       ` David Miller
2007-03-05  3:32   ` Greg KH

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