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From: "Bron Gondwana" <brong@fastmail.fm>
To: "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"Christian Kujau" <lists@nerdbynature.de>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rob Mueller" <robm@fastmail.fm>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm: add dirty_highmem option
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:24:24 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1196141064.31920.1223402735@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071126205428.c264ccff.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:54:28 -0800, "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org> said:
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:42:04 +1100 Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmail.fm>
> wrote:
> 
> >  /*
> > + * free highmem will not be subtracted from the total free memory
> > + * for calculating free ratios if vm_dirty_highmem is true
> > + */
> > +int vm_dirty_highmem;
> 
> One would expect that setting dirty_highmem to true would cause highmem
> to
> be accounted in dirty-memory calculations.  However with this change
> reality is in fact the inverse of that.
> 
> So how about this?

Actually, I'm confused now.  Maybe I chose a bad name to begin with.
Does it mean "I am allowed to dirty high memory" or "my high memory
will be dirty if this is on"?

Hmm... I'm even having trouble articulating what's odd about it.

I guess my internal model was: "if this flag is set then you are
allowed to make high memory dirty without needing to flush it
immediately", which is why I made it that way around.


No - you're wrong.  My patch _did_ include high memory in the dirty
memory calculations when dirty_highmem was true.

>  	x = global_page_state(NR_FREE_PAGES)
>  		+ global_page_state(NR_INACTIVE)
>  		+ global_page_state(NR_ACTIVE);

This is the total memory, _including_ high memory.

>           x -= highmem_dirtyable_memory(x);

This removes the high memory from the total count.


I think I got it right.  If dirty_highmem is set to true, then
don't subtract highmem from the total memory count before
calculating the percentages.  That's what I meant, and that's
what the toggle did.  Removed the subtraction.

Bron.


>  Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt |    4 ++--
>  mm/page-writeback.c                |    8 ++++----
>  2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> 
> diff -puN
> Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt~mm-add-dirty_highmem-option-fix
> Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
> --- a/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt~mm-add-dirty_highmem-option-fix
> +++ a/Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt
> @@ -1265,8 +1265,8 @@ Contains, as a boolean, a switch to allo
>  part of the "available" memory against which the dirty ratios will be
>  applied.
>  
> -Setting this to 1 can be useful on 32 bit machines where you want to
> make
> -random changes within an MMAPed file that is larger than your available
> +Setting this to 0 (false) can be useful on 32 bit machines where you
> wish to
> +make random changes within an MMAPed file that is larger than your
> available
>  lowmem, however it is potentially dangerous and has serious
>  bounce-buffer
>  issues.
>  
> diff -puN mm/page-writeback.c~mm-add-dirty_highmem-option-fix
> mm/page-writeback.c
> --- a/mm/page-writeback.c~mm-add-dirty_highmem-option-fix
> +++ a/mm/page-writeback.c
> @@ -69,10 +69,10 @@ static inline long sync_writeback_pages(
>  int dirty_background_ratio = 5;
>  
>  /*
> - * free highmem will not be subtracted from the total free memory
> - * for calculating free ratios if vm_dirty_highmem is true
> + * free highmem will be subtracted from the total free memory for
> calculating
> + * free ratios if vm_dirty_highmem is true
>   */
> -int vm_dirty_highmem;
> +int vm_dirty_highmem = 1;
>  
>  /*
>   * The generator of dirty data starts writeback at this percentage
> @@ -293,7 +293,7 @@ static unsigned long determine_dirtyable
>  	x = global_page_state(NR_FREE_PAGES)
>  		+ global_page_state(NR_INACTIVE)
>  		+ global_page_state(NR_ACTIVE);
> -	if (!vm_dirty_highmem)
> +	if (vm_dirty_highmem)
>  		x -= highmem_dirtyable_memory(x);
>  	return x + 1;	/* Ensure that we never return 0 */
>  }
> _
> 
> 
> 
> 
> (I dropped the already-merged part of your patch)
> 
> (I fixed a build error in kernel/sysctl.c: "one" was defined twice when
> suitable config options were set).
> 
> (It's an unpleasing patch, btw.  But it's an unpleasant problem and at
> least
> this way people can tell us "hey, I did <this> and it started to work")
-- 
  Bron Gondwana
  brong@fastmail.fm


  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-27  5:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 268+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-13  6:42 [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Natalie Protasevich
2007-11-13 11:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 11:24   ` Jens Axboe
2007-11-13 11:33   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-11-13 11:39   ` David Miller
2007-11-13 11:49     ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 11:58       ` David Miller
2007-11-13 12:12         ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 12:32           ` David Miller
2007-11-13 19:02             ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 20:00               ` Christian Kujau
2007-11-13 21:04                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 16:56                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 19:54                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-14 22:22                       ` Heikki Orsila
2007-11-14 23:05                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-13 21:37                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 21:56                   ` Christian Kujau
2007-11-15  4:07                     ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-15  4:24                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15  5:25                         ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-15  5:35                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15  5:53                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 11:50                               ` mmap dirty limits on 32 bit kernels (Was: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Bron Gondwana
2007-11-15 16:32                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 19:40                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-15 20:44                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-15 20:56                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 20:59                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-15 21:12                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-15 21:14                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 21:26                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 21:26                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-15 21:47                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 22:11                                               ` Chris Friesen
2007-11-15 22:31                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 22:24                                               ` Rob Mueller
2007-11-18 23:13                                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-11-19  3:41                                                   ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-16  0:48                                               ` Alan Cox
2007-11-21 21:25                                               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-11-19  3:54                                           ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-22  3:42                                           ` [PATCH 1/1] mm: add dirty_highmem option Bron Gondwana
2007-11-26 17:53                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-27  1:30                                               ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-27  4:54                                             ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-27  5:24                                               ` Bron Gondwana [this message]
2007-11-27  5:53                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-27 12:10                                                   ` dirty highmem calculation sysctl name (Was: [PATCH 1/1] mm: add dirty_highmem option) Bron Gondwana
2007-11-27 13:06                                                     ` [PATCH] mm/page-writeback - highmem_is_dirtyable option (replaces dirty_highmem patch) Bron Gondwana
2007-11-21 23:51                                   ` mmap dirty limits on 32 bit kernels (Was: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Bron Gondwana
2007-11-22  2:16                                     ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-13 19:32             ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Russell King
2007-11-13 20:13               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 23:29                 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 23:38                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 20:52               ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:18                 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 22:32                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 23:09                     ` Russell King
2007-11-13 23:17                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14  1:55                     ` David Miller
2007-11-14  2:27                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14  3:47                         ` David Miller
2007-11-14  8:30                         ` Russell King
2007-11-14  9:55                       ` Russell King
2007-11-14 10:07                         ` David Miller
2007-11-14 11:46                           ` [alsa-devel] " Rene Herman
2007-11-14 11:56                             ` David Miller
2007-11-14 12:01                               ` David Miller
2007-11-14  8:25                                 ` Moderated list (Was: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Takashi Iwai
2007-11-14 12:21                                   ` Rene Herman
2007-11-14  9:47                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2007-11-14 23:23                                       ` Moderated list David Miller
2007-11-15  6:09                                         ` Rene Herman
2007-11-14 12:12                                 ` [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Rene Herman
2007-11-14 12:09                               ` Rene Herman
2007-11-15  4:16                             ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-15  5:59                               ` Rene Herman
2007-11-15 12:02                                 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-15 12:26                                   ` Rene Herman
2007-11-15 13:00                                     ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-15 14:29                                       ` Rene Herman
2007-11-15 13:17                                 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-11-15  9:34                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2007-11-14 19:44                           ` Russell King
2007-11-16 22:16                           ` Use *poof* for linux-omap (Was: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Tony Lindgren
2007-11-17  0:45                             ` Use *poof* for linux-omap David Miller
2007-11-18 20:01                               ` Tony Lindgren
2007-11-14  5:56                   ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-14  5:59                     ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-14  6:13                     ` David Miller
2007-11-13 13:40           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 14:08             ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 15:24               ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2007-11-13 15:57                 ` Ray Lee
2007-11-13 17:01                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 17:50                     ` Romano Giannetti
2007-11-13 22:03                       ` Frans Pop
2007-11-13 15:52               ` Benoit Boissinot
2007-11-13 16:49                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 17:13                 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-13 17:30                   ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 17:33                   ` Larry Finger
2007-11-13 18:55                     ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-13 20:07                       ` Larry Finger
2007-11-13 17:56                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:57                     ` Gabriel C
2007-11-14  0:41                       ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14  0:39                     ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14  7:27                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-14  7:46                         ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14 13:30                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-14 13:35                             ` Hannes Reinecke
2007-11-14 21:39                               ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14 21:58                                 ` Gabriel C
2007-11-14 18:27                           ` Kok, Auke
2007-11-14 16:55                     ` Jan Evert van Grootheest
2007-11-14 23:23                   ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-11-15 15:30                     ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-15 16:19                       ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-11-16  8:20                         ` Romano Giannetti
2007-11-16 18:20                           ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-11-16 19:46                             ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-17 12:20                               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-18 18:01                                 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-13 16:46               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 17:50                 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:12                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:18                     ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:36                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:47                         ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 19:04                           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:12                             ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 19:30                               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:46                                 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 20:04                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:26                             ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 20:00                               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 20:13                                 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 21:20                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 21:12                                 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-14  0:52                                   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-11-14  1:11                                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-11-14  2:10                                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14  1:10                       ` David Miller
2007-11-14  1:18                         ` Peter Stuge
2007-11-13 18:17                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-13 18:39                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-13 18:43                     ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:49                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-13 18:54                         ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 22:09                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-14 14:30                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 14:49                             ` Larry Finger
2007-11-18 12:44                   ` size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Pavel Machek
2007-11-18 12:58                     ` Rene Herman
2007-11-18 14:35                       ` James Bottomley
2007-11-18 15:19                         ` Rene Herman
2007-11-18 14:56                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-19  4:43                       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-11-13 19:37               ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Russell King
2007-11-13 20:18                 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 21:33                   ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-13 21:56                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:24                       ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-13 22:43                         ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:29                     ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 23:40                   ` Russell King
2007-11-14  1:56                     ` David Miller
2007-11-14  0:34               ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-15  3:06                 ` Neil Brown
2007-11-13 16:55             ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 14:08               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 17:38                 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 18:23                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-15  2:50                     ` Neil Brown
2007-11-16  0:05                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-14 20:16                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 20:29                     ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 20:37                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 21:05                         ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 19:56                 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 20:09                   ` James Bottomley
2007-11-14 20:54                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 20:48                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 21:05                     ` david
2007-11-13 11:47   ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-11-13 13:58   ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 14:18     ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 16:08       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 16:07     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 17:47       ` Mark Lord
2007-11-15 16:32         ` [BUG] Strange 1-second pauses during Resume-from-RAM Mark Lord
2007-11-15 16:49           ` Ray Lee
2007-11-15 16:51             ` Mark Lord
2007-11-15 16:53               ` Mark Lord
2007-11-15 18:14           ` Pavel Machek
2007-11-15 17:31             ` Mark Lord
2007-11-15 19:34               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-15 19:36                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-15 22:23                   ` Mark Lord
2007-11-16  5:55                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16  7:15                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16  8:21                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 11:23                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 11:53                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-11-16 12:43                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 12:58                               ` [patch] snd hda suspend latency: shorten codec read Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 13:31                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-16 14:21                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-11-16 19:06                         ` [BUG] Strange 1-second pauses during Resume-from-RAM Mark Lord
2007-11-16 18:35                     ` Mark Lord
2007-11-30 20:12                     ` Mark Lord
2007-11-30 12:56                   ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-30 13:35                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-30 13:43                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-30 18:35                         ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-30 18:46                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-01 15:16                             ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-01 18:32                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-01 20:47                                 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-01 20:54                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-01 23:41                                     ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02  8:56                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 11:31                                         ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 12:31                                           ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 13:57                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 14:46                                             ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 15:44                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 13:57                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 14:11                                             ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 15:47                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 19:55                                                 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 20:07                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 20:30                                                     ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 20:45                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 21:08                                                         ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 21:10                                                         ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 21:19                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-03  0:57                                                             ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-04  0:06                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-04  9:34                                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-30 15:49                       ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-15 20:27               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-18 16:10           ` Mark Lord
2007-11-18 16:21             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-18 17:37               ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 17:54       ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Mark Lord
2007-11-13 22:46         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 23:37           ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:10       ` Russell King
2007-11-13 18:25         ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 22:34           ` Russell King
2007-11-15 20:16             ` Ben Dooks
2007-11-13 15:21   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-11-13 15:33   ` James Bottomley
2007-11-13 16:43     ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-13 17:46     ` Martin Bligh
2007-11-13 18:47       ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14  5:07       ` David Miller
2007-11-13 15:36   ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 17:49   ` Jan Kara
2007-11-13 18:04   ` Russell King
2007-11-14 12:46   ` Jiri Kosina
2007-11-14 13:24   ` Pavel Machek
2007-11-14 14:14     ` Fabio Comolli
2007-11-14 19:52     ` Russell King

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