From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, protasnb@gmail.com,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, bugme-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org,
linux-input@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:46:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <473AE010.4090806@keyaccess.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071114.020706.219917088.davem@davemloft.net>
On 14-11-07 11:07, David Miller wrote:
Added Jaroslav and Takashi to the already extensive CC....
> From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
>> So, when are you creating a replacement alsa-devel mailing list on
>> vger? That's also subscribers-only.
>
> The operative term is "alternative" rather than "replacement".
> Perhaps this misunderstanding is what you're so upset about.
>
> And yes, that alsa list bugs the crap out of me too. I'm more than
> happy to provide an alternative for that one as well.
alsa-devel@alsa-project.org is not subscriber-only. Same as that arm list,
it's _moderated_ for non-subscribers and given that I and other moderators
have been doing our best to moderate quickly (I tend to stay logged in to
the moderation interface all day for example) what specifically bugged the
crap out of you? It's not something a poster needs to concern himself with.
Also for alsa-devel the moderators tend to add any valid non-subcribers to
a whitelist after landing in the queue the first time meaning even a delay
is just a one-time thing normally. So what's the trouble? Basically, noone
need even notice...
> In fact, *poof*, there it is, linux-alsa@vger.kernel.org is there and
> available for anyone who wants to use it.
Not that I think that moving alsa-devel over to vger wouldn't be a good idea
mind you; when the list moved from sourceforge, asking you to host it was my
preferred option. I do somewhat suspect that Jaroslav would like to keep the
alsa-devel@ name (and I'd like to ask you to then also host alsa-user@) and
would then rewrite mail to those lists @alsa-project.org to vger.
But what is the problem you speak of with the alsa-devel list? While I would
not mind loosing it, moderation hasn't been overly laborious and I'm not
aware of any serious problems.
Rene.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-14 11:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 268+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-13 6:42 [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Natalie Protasevich
2007-11-13 11:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 11:24 ` Jens Axboe
2007-11-13 11:33 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-11-13 11:39 ` David Miller
2007-11-13 11:49 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 11:58 ` David Miller
2007-11-13 12:12 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 12:32 ` David Miller
2007-11-13 19:02 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 20:00 ` Christian Kujau
2007-11-13 21:04 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 16:56 ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 19:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-14 22:22 ` Heikki Orsila
2007-11-14 23:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-13 21:37 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 21:56 ` Christian Kujau
2007-11-15 4:07 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-15 4:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 5:25 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-15 5:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 5:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 11:50 ` mmap dirty limits on 32 bit kernels (Was: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Bron Gondwana
2007-11-15 16:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 19:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-15 20:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-15 20:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 20:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-15 21:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-15 21:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 21:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 21:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-15 21:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 22:11 ` Chris Friesen
2007-11-15 22:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 22:24 ` Rob Mueller
2007-11-18 23:13 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-11-19 3:41 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-16 0:48 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-21 21:25 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-11-19 3:54 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-22 3:42 ` [PATCH 1/1] mm: add dirty_highmem option Bron Gondwana
2007-11-26 17:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-27 1:30 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-27 4:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-27 5:24 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-27 5:53 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-27 12:10 ` dirty highmem calculation sysctl name (Was: [PATCH 1/1] mm: add dirty_highmem option) Bron Gondwana
2007-11-27 13:06 ` [PATCH] mm/page-writeback - highmem_is_dirtyable option (replaces dirty_highmem patch) Bron Gondwana
2007-11-21 23:51 ` mmap dirty limits on 32 bit kernels (Was: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Bron Gondwana
2007-11-22 2:16 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-13 19:32 ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Russell King
2007-11-13 20:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 23:29 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 23:38 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 20:52 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:18 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 22:32 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 23:09 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 23:17 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 1:55 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 2:27 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 3:47 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 8:30 ` Russell King
2007-11-14 9:55 ` Russell King
2007-11-14 10:07 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 11:46 ` Rene Herman [this message]
2007-11-14 11:56 ` [alsa-devel] " David Miller
2007-11-14 12:01 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 8:25 ` Moderated list (Was: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Takashi Iwai
2007-11-14 12:21 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-14 9:47 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-11-14 23:23 ` Moderated list David Miller
2007-11-15 6:09 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-14 12:12 ` [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Rene Herman
2007-11-14 12:09 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-15 4:16 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-15 5:59 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-15 12:02 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-15 12:26 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-15 13:00 ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-15 14:29 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-15 13:17 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-11-15 9:34 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-11-14 19:44 ` Russell King
2007-11-16 22:16 ` Use *poof* for linux-omap (Was: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Tony Lindgren
2007-11-17 0:45 ` Use *poof* for linux-omap David Miller
2007-11-18 20:01 ` Tony Lindgren
2007-11-14 5:56 ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-14 5:59 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-14 6:13 ` David Miller
2007-11-13 13:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 14:08 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 15:24 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2007-11-13 15:57 ` Ray Lee
2007-11-13 17:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 17:50 ` Romano Giannetti
2007-11-13 22:03 ` Frans Pop
2007-11-13 15:52 ` Benoit Boissinot
2007-11-13 16:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 17:13 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-13 17:30 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 17:33 ` Larry Finger
2007-11-13 18:55 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-13 20:07 ` Larry Finger
2007-11-13 17:56 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:57 ` Gabriel C
2007-11-14 0:41 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14 0:39 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14 7:27 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-14 7:46 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14 13:30 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-14 13:35 ` Hannes Reinecke
2007-11-14 21:39 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14 21:58 ` Gabriel C
2007-11-14 18:27 ` Kok, Auke
2007-11-14 16:55 ` Jan Evert van Grootheest
2007-11-14 23:23 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-11-15 15:30 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-15 16:19 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-11-16 8:20 ` Romano Giannetti
2007-11-16 18:20 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-11-16 19:46 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-17 12:20 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-18 18:01 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-13 16:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 17:50 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:12 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:18 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:36 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:47 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 19:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:12 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 19:30 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:46 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 20:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:26 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 20:00 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 20:13 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 21:20 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 21:12 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-14 0:52 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-11-14 1:11 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-11-14 2:10 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 1:10 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 1:18 ` Peter Stuge
2007-11-13 18:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-13 18:39 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-13 18:43 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-13 18:54 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 22:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-14 14:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 14:49 ` Larry Finger
2007-11-18 12:44 ` size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Pavel Machek
2007-11-18 12:58 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-18 14:35 ` James Bottomley
2007-11-18 15:19 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-18 14:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-19 4:43 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-11-13 19:37 ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Russell King
2007-11-13 20:18 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 21:33 ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-13 21:56 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:24 ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-13 22:43 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:29 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 23:40 ` Russell King
2007-11-14 1:56 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 0:34 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-15 3:06 ` Neil Brown
2007-11-13 16:55 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 14:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 17:38 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 18:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-15 2:50 ` Neil Brown
2007-11-16 0:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-14 20:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 20:29 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 20:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 21:05 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 19:56 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 20:09 ` James Bottomley
2007-11-14 20:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 20:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 21:05 ` david
2007-11-13 11:47 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-11-13 13:58 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 14:18 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 16:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 16:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 17:47 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-15 16:32 ` [BUG] Strange 1-second pauses during Resume-from-RAM Mark Lord
2007-11-15 16:49 ` Ray Lee
2007-11-15 16:51 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-15 16:53 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-15 18:14 ` Pavel Machek
2007-11-15 17:31 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-15 19:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-15 19:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-15 22:23 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-16 5:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 7:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 8:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 11:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 11:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-11-16 12:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 12:58 ` [patch] snd hda suspend latency: shorten codec read Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 13:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-16 14:21 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-11-16 19:06 ` [BUG] Strange 1-second pauses during Resume-from-RAM Mark Lord
2007-11-16 18:35 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-30 20:12 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-30 12:56 ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-30 13:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-30 13:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-30 18:35 ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-30 18:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-01 15:16 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-01 18:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-01 20:47 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-01 20:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-01 23:41 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 8:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 11:31 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 12:31 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 13:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 14:46 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 15:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 13:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 14:11 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 15:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 19:55 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 20:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 20:30 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 20:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 21:08 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 21:10 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 21:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-03 0:57 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-04 0:06 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-04 9:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-30 15:49 ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-15 20:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-18 16:10 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-18 16:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-18 17:37 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 17:54 ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Mark Lord
2007-11-13 22:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 23:37 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:10 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 18:25 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 22:34 ` Russell King
2007-11-15 20:16 ` Ben Dooks
2007-11-13 15:21 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-11-13 15:33 ` James Bottomley
2007-11-13 16:43 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-13 17:46 ` Martin Bligh
2007-11-13 18:47 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 5:07 ` David Miller
2007-11-13 15:36 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 17:49 ` Jan Kara
2007-11-13 18:04 ` Russell King
2007-11-14 12:46 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-11-14 13:24 ` Pavel Machek
2007-11-14 14:14 ` Fabio Comolli
2007-11-14 19:52 ` Russell King
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