From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmail.fm>,
Christian Kujau <lists@nerdbynature.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
robm@fastmail.fm, riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: mmap dirty limits on 32 bit kernels (Was: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:48:51 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071116004851.1ec5c93d@the-village.bc.nu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.9999.0711151342100.4260@woody.linux-foundation.org>
> So the _only_ explanation today for 12GB on a 32-bit machine is
> (a) insanity
> or
> (b) being so lazy as to not bother to upgrade
> and in either case, my personal reaction is "I'm *not* crazy, and yes, I'm
> lazy too, and I can't give a rats *ss about those problems".
12GB-16GB worked well historically so its a regression. Above 16GB its
all utterly mad.
You forgot reason (c) though
(c) 32bit is a tested approved certified etc environment - essentially
conservativsm and paranoia, and its hard to explain to some of these
people that the right answer really is less RAM or 64bit, especially as
they may already know it but have a 12 month process to prove and certify
a system configuration.
> HIGHMEM was a mistake in the first place. It's one that we can live with,
> but I refuse to support it more than it needs to be supported. And 12GB is
> *way* past the end of what is worth supporting.
Highmem to 4GB was sensible. Highmem to 8GB was pushing it.
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-16 0:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 268+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-13 6:42 [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Natalie Protasevich
2007-11-13 11:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 11:24 ` Jens Axboe
2007-11-13 11:33 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-11-13 11:39 ` David Miller
2007-11-13 11:49 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 11:58 ` David Miller
2007-11-13 12:12 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 12:32 ` David Miller
2007-11-13 19:02 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 20:00 ` Christian Kujau
2007-11-13 21:04 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 16:56 ` Nick Piggin
2007-11-14 19:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-14 22:22 ` Heikki Orsila
2007-11-14 23:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-13 21:37 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 21:56 ` Christian Kujau
2007-11-15 4:07 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-15 4:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 5:25 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-15 5:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 5:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 11:50 ` mmap dirty limits on 32 bit kernels (Was: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Bron Gondwana
2007-11-15 16:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 19:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-15 20:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-15 20:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 20:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-15 21:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-15 21:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 21:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 21:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-15 21:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 22:11 ` Chris Friesen
2007-11-15 22:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-15 22:24 ` Rob Mueller
2007-11-18 23:13 ` Daniel Phillips
2007-11-19 3:41 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-16 0:48 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2007-11-21 21:25 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-11-19 3:54 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-22 3:42 ` [PATCH 1/1] mm: add dirty_highmem option Bron Gondwana
2007-11-26 17:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-11-27 1:30 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-27 4:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-27 5:24 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-27 5:53 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-27 12:10 ` dirty highmem calculation sysctl name (Was: [PATCH 1/1] mm: add dirty_highmem option) Bron Gondwana
2007-11-27 13:06 ` [PATCH] mm/page-writeback - highmem_is_dirtyable option (replaces dirty_highmem patch) Bron Gondwana
2007-11-21 23:51 ` mmap dirty limits on 32 bit kernels (Was: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Bron Gondwana
2007-11-22 2:16 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-13 19:32 ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Russell King
2007-11-13 20:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 23:29 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 23:38 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 20:52 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:18 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 22:32 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 23:09 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 23:17 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 1:55 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 2:27 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 3:47 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 8:30 ` Russell King
2007-11-14 9:55 ` Russell King
2007-11-14 10:07 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 11:46 ` [alsa-devel] " Rene Herman
2007-11-14 11:56 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 12:01 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 8:25 ` Moderated list (Was: Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Takashi Iwai
2007-11-14 12:21 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-14 9:47 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-11-14 23:23 ` Moderated list David Miller
2007-11-15 6:09 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-14 12:12 ` [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Rene Herman
2007-11-14 12:09 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-15 4:16 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-15 5:59 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-15 12:02 ` Bron Gondwana
2007-11-15 12:26 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-15 13:00 ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-15 14:29 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-15 13:17 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-11-15 9:34 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-11-14 19:44 ` Russell King
2007-11-16 22:16 ` Use *poof* for linux-omap (Was: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Tony Lindgren
2007-11-17 0:45 ` Use *poof* for linux-omap David Miller
2007-11-18 20:01 ` Tony Lindgren
2007-11-14 5:56 ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-14 5:59 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-11-14 6:13 ` David Miller
2007-11-13 13:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 14:08 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 15:24 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2007-11-13 15:57 ` Ray Lee
2007-11-13 17:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 17:50 ` Romano Giannetti
2007-11-13 22:03 ` Frans Pop
2007-11-13 15:52 ` Benoit Boissinot
2007-11-13 16:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 17:13 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-13 17:30 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 17:33 ` Larry Finger
2007-11-13 18:55 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-13 20:07 ` Larry Finger
2007-11-13 17:56 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:57 ` Gabriel C
2007-11-14 0:41 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14 0:39 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14 7:27 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-14 7:46 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14 13:30 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-14 13:35 ` Hannes Reinecke
2007-11-14 21:39 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-14 21:58 ` Gabriel C
2007-11-14 18:27 ` Kok, Auke
2007-11-14 16:55 ` Jan Evert van Grootheest
2007-11-14 23:23 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-11-15 15:30 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-15 16:19 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-11-16 8:20 ` Romano Giannetti
2007-11-16 18:20 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-11-16 19:46 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-17 12:20 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-18 18:01 ` Theodore Tso
2007-11-13 16:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-13 17:50 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:12 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:18 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:36 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 18:47 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 19:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:12 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 19:30 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:46 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 20:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 19:26 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 20:00 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 20:13 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 21:20 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-11-13 21:12 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-14 0:52 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-11-14 1:11 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-11-14 2:10 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 1:10 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 1:18 ` Peter Stuge
2007-11-13 18:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-11-13 18:39 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-13 18:43 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-11-13 18:54 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 22:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-14 14:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 14:49 ` Larry Finger
2007-11-18 12:44 ` size of git repository (was Re: [BUG] New Kernel Bugs) Pavel Machek
2007-11-18 12:58 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-18 14:35 ` James Bottomley
2007-11-18 15:19 ` Rene Herman
2007-11-18 14:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-19 4:43 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-11-13 19:37 ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Russell King
2007-11-13 20:18 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 21:33 ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-13 21:56 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:24 ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-13 22:43 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-13 22:29 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 23:40 ` Russell King
2007-11-14 1:56 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 0:34 ` Denys Vlasenko
2007-11-15 3:06 ` Neil Brown
2007-11-13 16:55 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 14:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 17:38 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 18:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-15 2:50 ` Neil Brown
2007-11-16 0:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-11-14 20:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 20:29 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 20:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 21:05 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-14 19:56 ` David Miller
2007-11-14 20:09 ` James Bottomley
2007-11-14 20:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 20:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-14 21:05 ` david
2007-11-13 11:47 ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-11-13 13:58 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 14:18 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 16:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 16:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 17:47 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-15 16:32 ` [BUG] Strange 1-second pauses during Resume-from-RAM Mark Lord
2007-11-15 16:49 ` Ray Lee
2007-11-15 16:51 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-15 16:53 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-15 18:14 ` Pavel Machek
2007-11-15 17:31 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-15 19:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-15 19:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-15 22:23 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-16 5:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 7:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 8:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 11:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 11:53 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-11-16 12:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 12:58 ` [patch] snd hda suspend latency: shorten codec read Ingo Molnar
2007-11-16 13:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-16 14:21 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-11-16 19:06 ` [BUG] Strange 1-second pauses during Resume-from-RAM Mark Lord
2007-11-16 18:35 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-30 20:12 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-30 12:56 ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-30 13:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-30 13:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-30 18:35 ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-30 18:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-01 15:16 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-01 18:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-01 20:47 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-01 20:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-01 23:41 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 8:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 11:31 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 12:31 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 13:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 14:46 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 15:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 13:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 14:11 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 15:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 19:55 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 20:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 20:30 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 20:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-02 21:08 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 21:10 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-02 21:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-03 0:57 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-04 0:06 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-04 9:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-30 15:49 ` Jörn Engel
2007-11-15 20:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-11-18 16:10 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-18 16:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-11-18 17:37 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 17:54 ` [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Mark Lord
2007-11-13 22:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-11-13 23:37 ` Mark Lord
2007-11-13 18:10 ` Russell King
2007-11-13 18:25 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 22:34 ` Russell King
2007-11-15 20:16 ` Ben Dooks
2007-11-13 15:21 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-11-13 15:33 ` James Bottomley
2007-11-13 16:43 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-11-13 17:46 ` Martin Bligh
2007-11-13 18:47 ` Andrew Morton
2007-11-14 5:07 ` David Miller
2007-11-13 15:36 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-13 17:49 ` Jan Kara
2007-11-13 18:04 ` Russell King
2007-11-14 12:46 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-11-14 13:24 ` Pavel Machek
2007-11-14 14:14 ` Fabio Comolli
2007-11-14 19:52 ` Russell King
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