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From: Jan-Benedict Glaw <jbglaw@lug-owl.de>
To: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: TSCs are a no-no on i386
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:28:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030730202822.GG1873@lug-owl.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030730184529.GE21734@fs.tum.de>

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On Wed, 2003-07-30 20:45:29 +0200, Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de>
wrote in message <20030730184529.GE21734@fs.tum.de>:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 11:30:33AM -0700, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 08:10:06PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 03:56:23PM +0200, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote:
> > > > Please apply. Worst to say, even Debian seems to start using i486+
> > > > features (ie. libstdc++5 is SIGILLed on Am386 because there's no
> > > > "lock" insn available)...
> > > 
> > > Shouldn't the 486 emulation in the latest 386 kernel images in Debian
> > > unstable take care of this?
> > 
> > What emulation?
> 
> 486 emulation
> CONFIG_CPU_EMU486
>   When used on a 386, Linux can emulate 3 instructions from the 486 set.
>   This allows user space programs compiled for 486 to run on a 386
>   without crashing with a SIGILL. As any emulation, performance will be
>  very low, but since these instruction are not often used, this might
>   not hurt.  The emulated instructions are:
>      - bswap (does the same as htonl())
>      - cmpxchg (used in multi-threading, mutex locking)
>      - xadd (rarely used)

libstdc++ (and it's main user, apt-get) break at a LOCK insn.

MfG, JBG

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-07-30 20:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-30 13:56 TSCs are a no-no on i386 Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-30 14:18 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-07-30 14:44   ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-30 16:58 ` Matthew Garrett
2003-07-30 17:19   ` Alan Cox
2003-07-30 18:10 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-30 18:30   ` Mike Fedyk
2003-07-30 18:45     ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-30 20:01       ` Alan Cox
2003-07-30 20:33         ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-30 22:19           ` J.A. Magallon
2003-07-31  6:11             ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-30 23:05           ` Alan Cox
2003-07-31 11:11             ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-07-31 11:26               ` Emulating i486+ insn on i386 (was: TSCs are a no-no on i386) Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31 11:41             ` TSCs are a no-no on i386 Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31  0:22           ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-31  6:22             ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31  7:17               ` Willy Tarreau
2003-07-31 11:38                 ` Emulating i486 on i386 (was: TSCs are a no-no on i386) Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31 11:51                   ` Alan Cox
2003-07-31 12:14                     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31 13:01                       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31 15:09                         ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-07-31 15:33                           ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-08-01  5:37                             ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-07-31 15:12                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-31 15:32                       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-31 15:07                 ` TSCs are a no-no on i386 Jamie Lokier
2003-07-31 15:23                   ` Willy Tarreau
2003-07-31 15:50                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-07-31 16:24                     ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-08-06 11:08         ` Pavel Machek
2003-08-06 14:33           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2003-07-30 20:28       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw [this message]
2003-07-30 21:50         ` Petr Vandrovec
2003-07-30 23:10           ` Alan Cox
2003-07-31 15:10             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-31 16:01               ` Alan Cox
2003-07-31 18:37                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-07-31 19:10                   ` Alan Cox
2003-07-31  6:29           ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-30 20:27   ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-08-06 16:41 James Bottomley
2003-08-06 16:45 James Bottomley

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