From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: "Tomasz Kłoczko" <kloczek@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:57:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070624215724.025a5de5@the-village.bc.nu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSO.4.63.0706242113530.25800@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
> Sory Alan but I don't want philosophical/historical discuss.
> Try to answer on question "ALSA or OSS ?" using *only* technical arguments.
We dropped OSS for ALSA for technical reasons. Those being that ALSA
- has a better audio API
- is more flexible
- provides OSS as emulation
- supports more hardware
I used to maintain the kernel OSS code (the fork when Hannu and friends
took their project non-free). I did the work to make the sound layer
modular when the vendors realises that the open one needed to be modular
and that since that was the main play of the non-free one that Hannu
wasn't going to be doing it. From a technical perspective ALSA is the
better design especially for flexible devices.
At the desktop level these days it doesn't really matter much, the
desktops use their own sound servers which sit on top of OSS, ALSA and
other sound systems.
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-24 20:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-24 17:51 Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-24 19:08 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-24 19:24 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-24 19:27 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-24 21:43 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25 10:06 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 10:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-25 20:32 ` Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-24 20:57 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2007-06-24 22:43 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-24 22:44 ` Carlo Wood
2007-06-24 22:48 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-06-24 23:13 ` Carlo Wood
2007-06-25 3:41 ` Nobin Mathew
2007-06-25 9:06 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-25 10:41 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 20:09 ` Handling xruns in OSS (was Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-26 9:18 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 9:51 ` Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 10:58 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 11:36 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 12:31 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 12:40 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-25 12:47 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 12:50 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 12:44 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 12:58 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 13:20 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 13:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 18:30 ` Nix
2007-06-28 20:02 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 20:20 ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28 20:43 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 20:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-28 21:06 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 21:37 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 22:24 ` Nix
2007-06-29 11:52 ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 14:56 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 15:49 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-29 15:55 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 16:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-01 11:46 ` Florian Schmidt
2007-07-01 12:17 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 18:39 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 17:00 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 22:49 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25 13:01 ` Gabor Gombas
2007-06-25 13:41 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 14:05 ` Gabor Gombas
2007-06-25 13:21 ` Renato S. Yamane
2007-06-25 14:02 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 13:46 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25 6:24 ` Carlo Florendo
2007-06-25 6:22 ` Carlo Florendo
2007-06-25 10:53 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 11:50 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 13:04 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-06-25 21:18 ` Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-25 23:17 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-26 16:25 ` Wakko Warner
2007-06-26 16:52 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-27 11:11 ` Wakko Warner
2007-06-26 9:35 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-26 11:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 18:31 ` OSS vs ALSA API (was Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?) Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 14:44 ` Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Lennart Sorensen
2007-06-25 15:48 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 17:13 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-07-04 6:35 ` Darren
2007-07-04 17:32 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-05 12:59 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-24 18:35 Ash Willis
2007-06-24 19:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
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2007-06-24 19:37 ` Robert Hancock
2007-06-26 20:39 Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-26 21:10 ` Måns Rullgård
2007-06-27 3:59 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 3:41 ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28 11:52 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 13:02 ` Meelis Roos
2007-06-27 16:25 Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-27 17:29 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-27 19:10 ` Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-27 23:12 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 0:18 ` Patrick Draper
2007-06-28 1:58 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 2:28 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 11:15 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 3:04 ` Patrick Draper
2007-06-28 3:22 ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28 5:13 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-28 11:50 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 11:58 ` Gabriel C
2007-06-28 12:57 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 12:39 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 12:42 Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-28 15:02 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 16:34 ` Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-28 16:38 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-06-28 18:56 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 19:33 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 19:34 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-29 10:30 ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 11:40 ` Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-29 12:38 ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 12:29 ` Gabriel C
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[not found] ` <fa.n+OzEywqHGabZtz5NxmlX4rEY0A@ifi.uio.no>
2007-06-29 1:16 ` Robert Hancock
2007-06-29 22:04 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-07 2:41 William Pitcock
2007-07-07 13:23 ` Carlo Wood
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