From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>
To: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>,
Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
Tomasz K?oczko <kloczek@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:02:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <468413D2.60101@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tzssextf.fsf@hades.wkstn.nix>
On 06/28/2007 08:30 PM, Nix wrote:
> On 25 Jun 2007, Adrian Bunk stated:
>> If people often run into this problem it might make sense to deprecate
>> the in-kernel OSS emulation and point people to the userspace emulation
>> instead?
>
> So now people need to know internal implementation details like if a
> program uses ALSA or OSS interfaces before they know how to *run* it?
Point, but one that does hinge on whether or not you feel you can call using
the ALSA or OSS interface an implementation detail.
ALSA has been the Linux soundsystem for a number of years now and as such,
an application that runs under Linux and produces sound more and more can be
expected to do so using the Linux API. The only reason it _can_ be seen as a
detail is due to the Just Works nature of the OSS emulation but that is
changing due to the software mixing. Binary apps are also moving to ALSA
currently, ie, flash, skype, ...
Anyways, I suspect at least Takashi Iwai would simply say "no" to removing
or deprecating the in kernel emulation anyway, although it's not likely to
grow features anymore.
Rene.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-28 20:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-24 17:51 Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-24 19:08 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-24 19:24 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-24 19:27 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-24 21:43 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25 10:06 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 10:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-25 20:32 ` Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-24 20:57 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-24 22:43 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-24 22:44 ` Carlo Wood
2007-06-24 22:48 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-06-24 23:13 ` Carlo Wood
2007-06-25 3:41 ` Nobin Mathew
2007-06-25 9:06 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-25 10:41 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 20:09 ` Handling xruns in OSS (was Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-26 9:18 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 9:51 ` Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 10:58 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 11:36 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 12:31 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 12:40 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-25 12:47 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 12:50 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 12:44 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 12:58 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 13:20 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 13:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 18:30 ` Nix
2007-06-28 20:02 ` Rene Herman [this message]
2007-06-28 20:20 ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28 20:43 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 20:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-28 21:06 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 21:37 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 22:24 ` Nix
2007-06-29 11:52 ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 14:56 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 15:49 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-29 15:55 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 16:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-01 11:46 ` Florian Schmidt
2007-07-01 12:17 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 18:39 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 17:00 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 22:49 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25 13:01 ` Gabor Gombas
2007-06-25 13:41 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 14:05 ` Gabor Gombas
2007-06-25 13:21 ` Renato S. Yamane
2007-06-25 14:02 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 13:46 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25 6:24 ` Carlo Florendo
2007-06-25 6:22 ` Carlo Florendo
2007-06-25 10:53 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 11:50 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 13:04 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-06-25 21:18 ` Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-25 23:17 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-26 16:25 ` Wakko Warner
2007-06-26 16:52 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-27 11:11 ` Wakko Warner
2007-06-26 9:35 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-26 11:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 18:31 ` OSS vs ALSA API (was Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?) Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 14:44 ` Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Lennart Sorensen
2007-06-25 15:48 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 17:13 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-07-04 6:35 ` Darren
2007-07-04 17:32 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-05 12:59 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-24 18:35 Ash Willis
2007-06-24 19:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
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2007-06-24 19:37 ` Robert Hancock
2007-06-26 20:39 Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-26 21:10 ` Måns Rullgård
2007-06-27 3:59 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 3:41 ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28 11:52 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 13:02 ` Meelis Roos
2007-06-27 16:25 Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-27 17:29 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-27 19:10 ` Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-27 23:12 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 0:18 ` Patrick Draper
2007-06-28 1:58 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 2:28 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 11:15 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 3:04 ` Patrick Draper
2007-06-28 3:22 ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28 5:13 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-28 11:50 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 11:58 ` Gabriel C
2007-06-28 12:57 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 12:39 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 12:42 Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-28 15:02 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 16:34 ` Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-28 16:38 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-06-28 18:56 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 19:33 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 19:34 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-29 10:30 ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 11:40 ` Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-29 12:38 ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 12:29 ` Gabriel C
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[not found] ` <fa.eZW1VxypFFwQqmC93xQaStxDK0Q@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.n+OzEywqHGabZtz5NxmlX4rEY0A@ifi.uio.no>
2007-06-29 1:16 ` Robert Hancock
2007-06-29 22:04 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-07 2:41 William Pitcock
2007-07-07 13:23 ` Carlo Wood
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