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From: "Nobin Mathew" <nobin.mathew@gmail.com>
To: "Carlo Wood" <carlo@alinoe.com>,
	"Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Tomasz Kłoczko" <kloczek@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:11:09 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8d6898730706242041q61f56b07kf4dc181fdad4e4dc@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070624224411.GB21724@alinoe.com>

> I sent a patch to the ALSA developers 4 years ago.
> It was never included in the kernel :/

ALSA maintainers are very open to patches. try sending this again

>
> Here's the comment from a script that I once wrote to
> make some closed-source dinosar code run (speech recognition)
> on modern linux:
>
> # Note that ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture), the sound drivers that
> # replace the older OSS as of kernel 2.5, also introduce a problem for some
> # soundcards: unlike the OSS drivers, the ALSA drivers limit the recording
> # buffer to the hardware limit of your sound card.  For example, the SB Live!
> # only has two 'period' buffers (called fragments before), and although
> # viavoice requests an 'arbitrary number of periods, size 1024 bytes', it
> # only gets two periods of 1024 bytes: 2048 bytes in total!  The ViaVoice
> # engine however doesn't even process sound until it sees at least 6102 bytes.
> # The 'solution' for this is to increase the buffer size (from 1024 to say
> # 8192), this script also takes care of that.  Unfortunately, also that is
> # possibly not enough: the sound is read from the hardware in chunks of
> # 'period size' and having only two buffers this is often causing an underrun.
> # When ALSA sees an underrun... it stops the sound stream.
>

native ALSA drivers has all these required features.

> My (four year old) patch can be found here:
>
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/alsa/index.html
>
> I STILL think that ALSA should restart the stream after an underrun,
> but I am not someone who asks twice :p usually.

If it is native ALSA driver then it will restart after each underrun
and overrun. It is the applications job to do this, alsa-lib provides
all support for this. I have no idea of OSS and OSS emulation in ALSA.

If you have any queries please try sending to alsa-devel.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-25  3:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-24 17:51 Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-24 19:08 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-24 19:24   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-24 19:27     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-24 21:43       ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25 10:06       ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 10:46         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-25 20:32         ` Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-24 20:57     ` Alan Cox
2007-06-24 22:43       ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-24 22:44       ` Carlo Wood
2007-06-24 22:48         ` Jesper Juhl
2007-06-24 23:13           ` Carlo Wood
2007-06-25  3:41         ` Nobin Mathew [this message]
2007-06-25  9:06           ` Alan Cox
2007-06-25 10:41             ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 20:09               ` Handling xruns in OSS (was Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-26  9:18                 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25  9:51       ` Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 10:58         ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 11:36           ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 12:31             ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 12:40               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-25 12:47                 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 12:50                   ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 12:44               ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 12:58                 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 13:20                   ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 13:21                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 18:30                   ` Nix
2007-06-28 20:02                     ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 20:20                       ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28 20:43                         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 20:22                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-28 21:06                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 21:37                       ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 22:24                       ` Nix
2007-06-29 11:52                       ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 14:56                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 15:49                           ` Alan Cox
2007-06-29 15:55                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 16:14                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-01 11:46                                 ` Florian Schmidt
2007-07-01 12:17                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 18:39                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 17:00               ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 22:49                 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25 13:01             ` Gabor Gombas
2007-06-25 13:41               ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 14:05                 ` Gabor Gombas
2007-06-25 13:21             ` Renato S. Yamane
2007-06-25 14:02               ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 13:46             ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25  6:24     ` Carlo Florendo
2007-06-25  6:22 ` Carlo Florendo
2007-06-25 10:53 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 11:50   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 13:04     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-06-25 21:18   ` Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-25 23:17     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-26 16:25       ` Wakko Warner
2007-06-26 16:52         ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-27 11:11           ` Wakko Warner
2007-06-26  9:35     ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-26 11:48     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 18:31       ` OSS vs ALSA API (was Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?) Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 14:44 ` Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Lennart Sorensen
2007-06-25 15:48   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 17:13     ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-07-04  6:35 ` Darren
2007-07-04 17:32   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-05 12:59     ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-24 18:35 Ash Willis
2007-06-24 19:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
     [not found] <fa.4npeXBdRGMm2JoKWe0qhjQdrJkk@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.bAhr1dmoWCFU+8Kxo95nsy5DRRU@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.MQ77mllForge5OWcDydLlI0yp8s@ifi.uio.no>
2007-06-24 19:37     ` Robert Hancock
2007-06-26 20:39 Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-26 21:10 ` Måns Rullgård
2007-06-27  3:59 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28  3:41 ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28 11:52   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 13:02     ` Meelis Roos
2007-06-27 16:25 Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-27 17:29 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-27 19:10   ` Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-27 23:12     ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28  0:18       ` Patrick Draper
2007-06-28  1:58         ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28  2:28           ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 11:15             ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28  3:04           ` Patrick Draper
2007-06-28  3:22             ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28  5:13             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-28 11:50             ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 11:58               ` Gabriel C
2007-06-28 12:57               ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 12:39             ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 12:42 Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-28 15:02 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 16:34   ` Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-28 16:38     ` Xavier Bestel
2007-06-28 18:56     ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 19:33       ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 19:34         ` Rene Herman
2007-06-29 10:30     ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 11:40       ` Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-29 12:38         ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 12:29 ` Gabriel C
     [not found] <fa.C+RaPJT9DzfOowG03yiRkB6ItF8@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.eZW1VxypFFwQqmC93xQaStxDK0Q@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.n+OzEywqHGabZtz5NxmlX4rEY0A@ifi.uio.no>
2007-06-29  1:16     ` Robert Hancock
2007-06-29 22:04       ` Rene Herman
2007-07-07  2:41 William Pitcock
2007-07-07 13:23 ` Carlo Wood

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