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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Darren <kernel@da4.org>
Cc: "Tomasz Kłoczko" <kloczek@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 19:32:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070704173228.GK3492@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <468B3FBB.9050006@da4.org>

On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 02:35:39AM -0400, Darren wrote:
>
> I know this may sound kind of stupid, but how about not deprecating either, 
> and fully supporting both sound systems? Maybe we can get them to work 
> together, and the distro or user can choose whether they would like to use 
> alsa or oss for that particular card (or have the distro choose the sound 
> drivers that are best supported for that particular card). As it is now, 
> most apps already support oss and alsa.

It does not sound stupid and sounds good at first sight.

But there are problems we've already seen with similar situations in 
different parts of the kernel:

They would have different hardware support, features and bugs.

And then a user user whose sound card is only supported by sound system A
needs a feature only available in sound system B.

And the quality decreases since people will often not report bugs in 
sound system A if sound system B works for them.

OTOH, for a user it shouldn't matter whether there's OSS or ALSA, that's 
mostly a difference for application developers. And since (as you say) 
most applications already support both, there's no compelling reason for 
providing more than one of them.

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-04 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-24 17:51 Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-24 19:08 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-24 19:24   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-24 19:27     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-24 21:43       ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25 10:06       ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 10:46         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-25 20:32         ` Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-24 20:57     ` Alan Cox
2007-06-24 22:43       ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-24 22:44       ` Carlo Wood
2007-06-24 22:48         ` Jesper Juhl
2007-06-24 23:13           ` Carlo Wood
2007-06-25  3:41         ` Nobin Mathew
2007-06-25  9:06           ` Alan Cox
2007-06-25 10:41             ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 20:09               ` Handling xruns in OSS (was Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-26  9:18                 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25  9:51       ` Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 10:58         ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 11:36           ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 12:31             ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 12:40               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-25 12:47                 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 12:50                   ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 12:44               ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 12:58                 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 13:20                   ` Olivier Galibert
2007-06-25 13:21                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 18:30                   ` Nix
2007-06-28 20:02                     ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 20:20                       ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28 20:43                         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 20:22                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-28 21:06                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-28 21:37                       ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 22:24                       ` Nix
2007-06-29 11:52                       ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 14:56                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 15:49                           ` Alan Cox
2007-06-29 15:55                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 16:14                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-01 11:46                                 ` Florian Schmidt
2007-07-01 12:17                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-29 18:39                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 17:00               ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 22:49                 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25 13:01             ` Gabor Gombas
2007-06-25 13:41               ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 14:05                 ` Gabor Gombas
2007-06-25 13:21             ` Renato S. Yamane
2007-06-25 14:02               ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 13:46             ` Rene Herman
2007-06-25  6:24     ` Carlo Florendo
2007-06-25  6:22 ` Carlo Florendo
2007-06-25 10:53 ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-25 11:50   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 13:04     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-06-25 21:18   ` Hannu Savolainen
2007-06-25 23:17     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-26 16:25       ` Wakko Warner
2007-06-26 16:52         ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-27 11:11           ` Wakko Warner
2007-06-26  9:35     ` Takashi Iwai
2007-06-26 11:48     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-29 18:31       ` OSS vs ALSA API (was Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?) Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 14:44 ` Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ? Lennart Sorensen
2007-06-25 15:48   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-25 17:13     ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-07-04  6:35 ` Darren
2007-07-04 17:32   ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2007-07-05 12:59     ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-24 18:35 Ash Willis
2007-06-24 19:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
     [not found] <fa.4npeXBdRGMm2JoKWe0qhjQdrJkk@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.bAhr1dmoWCFU+8Kxo95nsy5DRRU@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.MQ77mllForge5OWcDydLlI0yp8s@ifi.uio.no>
2007-06-24 19:37     ` Robert Hancock
2007-06-26 20:39 Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-26 21:10 ` Måns Rullgård
2007-06-27  3:59 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28  3:41 ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28 11:52   ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 13:02     ` Meelis Roos
2007-06-27 16:25 Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-27 17:29 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-27 19:10   ` Andreas Hartmetz
2007-06-27 23:12     ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28  0:18       ` Patrick Draper
2007-06-28  1:58         ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28  2:28           ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 11:15             ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28  3:04           ` Patrick Draper
2007-06-28  3:22             ` Lee Revell
2007-06-28  5:13             ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-28 11:50             ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 11:58               ` Gabriel C
2007-06-28 12:57               ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 12:39             ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 12:42 Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-28 15:02 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 16:34   ` Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-28 16:38     ` Xavier Bestel
2007-06-28 18:56     ` Rene Herman
2007-06-28 19:33       ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-06-28 19:34         ` Rene Herman
2007-06-29 10:30     ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 11:40       ` Anton Petrusevich
2007-06-29 12:38         ` Florian Schmidt
2007-06-29 12:29 ` Gabriel C
     [not found] <fa.C+RaPJT9DzfOowG03yiRkB6ItF8@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.eZW1VxypFFwQqmC93xQaStxDK0Q@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.n+OzEywqHGabZtz5NxmlX4rEY0A@ifi.uio.no>
2007-06-29  1:16     ` Robert Hancock
2007-06-29 22:04       ` Rene Herman
2007-07-07  2:41 William Pitcock
2007-07-07 13:23 ` Carlo Wood

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