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From: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] kconfig: untangle EXPERT and EMBEDDED
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:46:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120123134632.GA8235@turtle.usersys.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120118122830.037f1e29.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:28:30PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> time.  But I suggest that we tip both CONFIG_EXPERT and CONFIG_EMBEDDED
> into the ole bit bucket.  What do you guys think would be the negative
> consequences of doing this?

I thought EXPERT was the best way to manage the visibility of expert
options, but probably not, since it's prone to silent default changing. I
think it would be safer if the kconfig language had more support for this
visibility control. Maybe we need another miscellaneous option, like
'option visibility=<level>', level = {low, normal, high, experimental}.
low means practically grayed out (hopefully allowing the eye of the user
to effectively not see it), normal would be a noop, high makes it stand
out, and experimental would be like high, except also throw a canned
sentence in that says it's not ready for production. (This additional
focus on EXPERIMENTAL was inspired by your comments on it possibly
deserving a special color or something.) Of course, additional or
different levels could be conceived of, but in general I think we need
better ways to supply hints to kconfig frontends about visibility.
Something that can't get tangled up with default values.

Drew

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-23 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-11 15:16 [PATCH] kconfig: untangle EXPERT and EMBEDDED Andrew Jones
2012-01-11 21:57 ` David Rientjes
2012-01-12  9:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-01-12 10:18     ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-12 21:06       ` David Rientjes
2012-01-13  8:51         ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-13 10:53           ` David Rientjes
2012-01-13 12:22             ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-13 21:27               ` David Rientjes
2012-01-16  9:20                 ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-16 23:28                   ` David Rientjes
2012-01-17 14:27                     ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-17 20:46                       ` David Rientjes
2012-01-18  8:14                         ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-18  9:19                           ` David Rientjes
2012-01-16 15:31                 ` Jerome Marchand
2012-01-16 23:37                   ` David Rientjes
2012-01-17 14:46                     ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-17 20:54                       ` David Rientjes
2012-01-18  8:51                         ` Jerome Marchand
2012-01-18  8:56                         ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-18  9:31                           ` David Rientjes
2012-01-18  9:54                             ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-18  9:38                         ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-12 20:59     ` David Rientjes
2012-01-16 15:40 ` Jerome Marchand
2012-01-16 15:50   ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-16 17:34     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-01-17  8:28       ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-18 11:08 ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-18 20:28   ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-18 20:46     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-01-18 21:04     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-01-18 21:36       ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-18 21:48     ` Paul Bolle
2012-01-18 21:55       ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-18 22:13         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-01-18 22:06       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-01-18 22:13       ` Dave Jones
2012-01-19  8:09     ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-23 13:46     ` Andrew Jones [this message]
2012-01-24  0:43       ` David Rientjes

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