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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	"Linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	dsj@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/18] [media] uvcvideo: prevent bounds-check bypass via speculative execution
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2018 10:09:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180107090918.GA29329@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4je-agqvmNSJf7v-1VBOrfhOvcs_qASNPJiBzgTt70dPA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 09:41:17AM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 1:40 AM, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 10:09:07AM +0100, Greg KH wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jan 05, 2018 at 05:10:32PM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> >> > Static analysis reports that 'index' may be a user controlled value that
> >> > is used as a data dependency to read 'pin' from the
> >> > 'selector->baSourceID' array. In order to avoid potential leaks of
> >> > kernel memory values, block speculative execution of the instruction
> >> > stream that could issue reads based on an invalid value of 'pin'.
> >> >
> >> > Based on an original patch by Elena Reshetova.
> >> >
> >> > Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
> >> > Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>
> >> > Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org
> >> > Signed-off-by: Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>
> >> > Signed-off-by: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
> >> > ---
> >> >  drivers/media/usb/uvc/uvc_v4l2.c |    7 +++++--
> >> >  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >> >
> >> > diff --git a/drivers/media/usb/uvc/uvc_v4l2.c b/drivers/media/usb/uvc/uvc_v4l2.c
> >> > index 3e7e283a44a8..7442626dc20e 100644
> >> > --- a/drivers/media/usb/uvc/uvc_v4l2.c
> >> > +++ b/drivers/media/usb/uvc/uvc_v4l2.c
> >> > @@ -22,6 +22,7 @@
> >> >  #include <linux/mm.h>
> >> >  #include <linux/wait.h>
> >> >  #include <linux/atomic.h>
> >> > +#include <linux/compiler.h>
> >> >
> >> >  #include <media/v4l2-common.h>
> >> >  #include <media/v4l2-ctrls.h>
> >> > @@ -810,6 +811,7 @@ static int uvc_ioctl_enum_input(struct file *file, void *fh,
> >> >     struct uvc_entity *iterm = NULL;
> >> >     u32 index = input->index;
> >> >     int pin = 0;
> >> > +   __u8 *elem;
> >> >
> >> >     if (selector == NULL ||
> >> >         (chain->dev->quirks & UVC_QUIRK_IGNORE_SELECTOR_UNIT)) {
> >> > @@ -820,8 +822,9 @@ static int uvc_ioctl_enum_input(struct file *file, void *fh,
> >> >                             break;
> >> >             }
> >> >             pin = iterm->id;
> >> > -   } else if (index < selector->bNrInPins) {
> >> > -           pin = selector->baSourceID[index];
> >> > +   } else if ((elem = nospec_array_ptr(selector->baSourceID, index,
> >> > +                                   selector->bNrInPins))) {
> >> > +           pin = *elem;
> >>
> >> I dug through this before, and I couldn't find where index came from
> >> userspace, I think seeing the coverity rule would be nice.
> >
> > Ok, I take it back, this looks correct.  Ugh, the v4l ioctl api is
> > crazy complex (rightfully so), it's amazing that coverity could navigate
> > that whole thing :)
> >
> > While I'm all for fixing this type of thing, I feel like we need to do
> > something "else" for this as playing whack-a-mole for this pattern is
> > going to be a never-ending battle for all drivers for forever.  Either
> > we need some way to mark this data path to make it easy for tools like
> > sparse to flag easily, or we need to catch the issue in the driver
> > subsystems, which unfortunatly, would harm the drivers that don't have
> > this type of issue (like here.)
> >
> > I'm guessing that other operating systems, which don't have the luxury
> > of auditing all of their drivers are going for the "big hammer in the
> > subsystem" type of fix, right?
> >
> > I don't have a good answer for this, but if there was some better way to
> > rewrite these types of patterns to just prevent the need for the
> > nospec_array_ptr() type thing, that might be the best overall for
> > everyone.  Much like ebpf did with their changes.  That way a simple
> > coccinelle rule would be able to catch the pattern and rewrite it.
> >
> > Or am I just dreaming?
> 
> At least on the coccinelle front you're dreaming. Julia already took a
> look and said:
> 
> "I don't think Coccinelle would be good for doing this (ie
> implementing taint analysis) because the dataflow is too complicated."

Sorry for the confusion, no, I don't mean the "taint tracking", I mean
the generic pattern of "speculative out of bounds access" that we are
fixing here.

Yes, as you mentioned before, there are tons of false-positives in the
tree, as to find the real problems you have to show that userspace
controls the access index.  But if we have a generic pattern that can
rewrite that type of logic into one where it does not matter at all
(i.e. like the ebpf proposed changes), then it would not be an issue if
they are false or not, we just rewrite them all to be safe.

We need to find some way not only to fix these issues now (like you are
doing with this series), but to prevent them from every coming back into
the codebase again.  It's that second part that we need to keep in the
back of our minds here, while doing the first portion of this work.

> Perhaps the Coverity instance Dave mentioned at Ksummit 2012 has a
> role to play here?

We have a coverity instance that all kernel developers have access to
(just sign up and we grant it.)  We have at least one person working
full time on fixing up errors that this instance reports.  So if we
could get those rules added (which is why I asked for them), it would be
a great first line of defense to prevent the "adding new problems" issue
from happening right now for the 4.16-rc1 merge window.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-07  9:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-06  1:09 [PATCH 00/18] prevent bounds-check bypass via speculative execution Dan Williams
2018-01-06  1:09 ` [PATCH 01/18] asm-generic/barrier: add generic nospec helpers Dan Williams
2018-01-06  2:55   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-06  5:23     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-06 17:08       ` Mark Rutland
2018-01-06  1:10 ` [PATCH 02/18] Documentation: document " Dan Williams
2018-01-08 16:29   ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-01-08 17:09     ` Mark Rutland
2018-01-08 21:19       ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-01-06  1:10 ` [PATCH 03/18] arm64: implement nospec_ptr() Dan Williams
2018-01-06  1:10 ` [PATCH 04/18] arm: " Dan Williams
2018-01-10  2:04   ` Laura Abbott
2018-01-10  7:40     ` Hanjun Guo
2018-01-10 17:24       ` Laura Abbott
2018-01-06  1:10 ` [PATCH 05/18] x86: implement nospec_barrier() Dan Williams
2018-01-06  1:10 ` [PATCH 06/18] x86, barrier: stop speculation for failed access_ok Dan Williams
2018-01-06  2:52   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-06  3:09     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-06 23:31       ` Dan Williams
2018-01-07  1:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-08 21:09           ` Dan Williams
2018-01-08 23:44             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-08 23:53               ` Dan Williams
2018-01-06  5:47     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-06 12:32     ` Alan Cox
2018-01-06 17:56       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-06 18:13       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-06 18:29         ` Dan Williams
2018-01-06 18:39           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-06 18:54             ` Dan Williams
2018-01-06 19:25               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-06 19:36                 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-06 19:41                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-08 10:02                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-01-06 18:38         ` Alan Cox
2018-01-06 18:51           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-06 19:55             ` Alan Cox
2018-01-06 20:09               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-06 20:22                 ` Alan Cox
2018-01-06 21:17                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-06 21:21                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-06 23:05                     ` Alan Cox
2018-01-07  3:38                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-07  6:33                         ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-07 19:47                           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-07 20:12                             ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-07 20:17                               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-07 20:56                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-08  2:23                                   ` David Miller
2018-01-08  7:38                                     ` Greg KH
2018-01-07 22:15                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-07 20:15                             ` Dan Williams
2018-01-08  2:24                               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-08  9:51                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 18:21                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-08 12:00                             ` David Laight
2018-01-08 12:12                               ` Alan Cox
2018-01-08 12:33                                 ` David Laight
2018-01-07 10:08                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-08  2:09                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-07 13:59                         ` Alan Cox
2018-01-08  2:57                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-08  9:57                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-06 20:42           ` Willy Tarreau
2018-01-07  1:36             ` David Miller
2018-01-07 17:19               ` James Bottomley
2018-01-07 18:31                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-08  2:04                   ` David Miller
2018-01-07 19:24                 ` Alan Cox
2018-01-09 21:41     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-09 21:47       ` Dan Williams
2018-01-09 21:49         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-09 21:59           ` Dan Williams
2018-01-09 22:23             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-09 22:35               ` Dan Williams
2018-01-06  1:10 ` [PATCH 07/18] [media] uvcvideo: prevent bounds-check bypass via speculative execution Dan Williams
2018-01-06  9:09   ` Greg KH
2018-01-06  9:40     ` Greg KH
2018-01-06 17:41       ` Dan Williams
2018-01-07  9:09         ` Greg KH [this message]
2018-01-07 19:37           ` Dan Williams
2018-01-09  8:40       ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-01-09 10:04         ` Greg KH
2018-01-09 14:26           ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-01-09 14:47             ` Greg KH
2018-01-08 11:23   ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-01-09  2:11     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-06  1:10 ` [PATCH 08/18] carl9170: " Dan Williams
2018-01-06 10:01   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2018-01-06 14:23   ` Christian Lamparter
2018-01-06 15:06     ` Alan Cox
2018-01-06 16:38       ` Christian Lamparter
2018-01-06 16:34     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-06  1:10 ` [PATCH 09/18] p54: " Dan Williams
2018-01-06 10:01   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2018-01-06  1:10 ` [PATCH 10/18] qla2xxx: " Dan Williams
2018-01-06  9:03   ` Greg KH
2018-01-06  9:42     ` Greg KH
2018-01-11 22:15     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-12  7:27       ` Greg KH
2018-01-12 15:25         ` James Bottomley
2018-01-06  1:10 ` [PATCH 11/18] cw1200: " Dan Williams
2018-01-06  1:10 ` [PATCH 12/18] Thermal/int340x: " Dan Williams
2018-01-06  1:53   ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-01-06  1:57     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-06 17:24       ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2018-01-06 10:03   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2018-01-06  1:11 ` [PATCH 13/18] ipv6: " Dan Williams
2018-01-06 10:04   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2018-01-06 14:48   ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-01-06 18:05     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-06  1:11 ` [PATCH 14/18] ipv4: " Dan Williams
2018-01-06  9:00   ` Greg KH
2018-01-06  9:01   ` Greg KH
2018-01-06 12:23     ` Alan Cox
2018-01-06 15:14       ` Greg KH
2018-01-06 16:29         ` Dan Williams
2018-01-06 18:10           ` Dan Williams
2018-01-06 10:04   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2018-01-06  1:11 ` [PATCH 15/18] vfs, fdtable: " Dan Williams
2018-01-06 10:05   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2018-01-06  1:11 ` [PATCH 16/18] net: mpls: " Dan Williams
2018-01-06 10:06   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2018-01-09  3:11   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-09  3:42     ` Dan Williams
2018-01-09  4:13       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-09  4:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-10  0:48         ` Dan Williams
2018-01-10  1:33           ` Dan Williams
2018-01-10  1:57           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-10  2:22             ` Dan Williams
2018-01-10  3:07               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-01-10  3:27           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-09 16:17       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-09 18:01         ` Dan Williams
2018-01-10  0:54           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-10  1:31             ` Dan Williams
2018-01-06  1:11 ` [PATCH 17/18] udf: " Dan Williams
2018-01-08 10:20   ` Jan Kara
2018-01-06  1:11 ` [PATCH 18/18] userns: " Dan Williams
2018-01-06  2:22 ` [PATCH 00/18] " Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-06  6:30   ` Dan Williams
2018-01-08 10:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 11:14       ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-01-08 11:43       ` Alan Cox
2018-01-08 11:55         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 18:33         ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-08 16:20     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-06 18:56 ` Florian Fainelli
2018-01-06 18:59   ` Arjan van de Ven
2018-01-06 19:37 ` Dan Williams
2018-01-06 20:07   ` Dan Williams
2018-01-08  4:49 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-01-08 13:33   ` Arjan van de Ven
2018-01-09 19:34 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-09 19:44   ` Dan Williams
2018-01-09 20:55     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-11  9:54       ` Jiri Kosina
2018-01-11 15:58         ` Dan Williams
2018-01-11 16:34           ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-01-13 11:33 ` QingFeng Hao

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