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From: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>, Todd Kjos <tkjos@google.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
	Steve Muckle <smuckle@google.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 04/16] sched/core: uclamp: Add CPU's clamp buckets refcounting
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 16:33:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190121163337.6l7hkggicndtpzjs@e110439-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190121161237.GB13777@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 21-Jan 17:12, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 03:23:11PM +0000, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > On 21-Jan 15:59, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:15:01AM +0000, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > > > @@ -835,6 +954,28 @@ static void uclamp_bucket_inc(struct uclamp_se *uc_se, unsigned int clamp_id,
> > > >  	} while (!atomic_long_try_cmpxchg(&uc_maps[bucket_id].adata,
> > > >  					  &uc_map_old.data, uc_map_new.data));
> > > >  
> > > > +	/*
> > > > +	 * Ensure each CPU tracks the correct value for this clamp bucket.
> > > > +	 * This initialization of per-CPU variables is required only when a
> > > > +	 * clamp value is requested for the first time from a slow-path.
> > > > +	 */
> > > 
> > > I'm confused; why is this needed?
> > 
> > That's a lazy initialization of the per-CPU uclamp data for a given
> > bucket, i.e. the clamp value assigned to a bucket, which happens only
> > when new clamp values are requested... usually only at system
> > boot/configuration time.
> > 
> > For example, let say we have these buckets mapped to given clamp
> > values:
> > 
> >  bucket_#0: clamp value: 10% (mapped)
> >  bucket_#1: clamp value: 20% (mapped)
> >  bucket_#2: clamp value: 30% (mapped)
> > 
> > and then let's assume all the users of bucket_#1 are "destroyed", i.e.
> > there are no more tasks, system defaults or cgroups asking for a
> > 20% clamp value. The corresponding bucket will become free:
> > 
> >  bucket_#0: clamp value: 10% (mapped)
> >  bucket_#1: clamp value: 20% (free)
> >  bucket_#2: clamp value: 30% (mapped)
> > 
> > If, in the future, we ask for a new clamp value, let say a task ask
> > for a 40% clamp value, then we need to map that value into a bucket.
> > Since bucket_#1 is free we can use it to fill up the hold and keep all
> > the buckets in use at the beginning of a cache line.
> > 
> > However, since now bucket_#1 tracks a different clamp value (40
> > instead of 20) we need to walk all the CPUs and updated the cached
> > value:
> > 
> >  bucket_#0: clamp value: 10% (mapped)
> >  bucket_#1: clamp value: 40% (mapped)
> >  bucket_#2: clamp value: 30% (mapped)
> > 
> > Is that more clear ?
> 
> Yes, and I realized this a little while after sending this; but I'm not
> sure I have an answer to why though.
> 
> That is; why isn't the whole thing hard coded to have:
> 
>  bucket_n: clamp value: n*UCLAMP_BUCKET_DELTA
> 
> We already do that division anyway (clamp_value / UCLAMP_BUCKET_DELTA),
> and from that we instantly have the right bucket index. And that allows
> us to initialize all this beforehand.
> 
> > and keep all
> > the buckets in use at the beginning of a cache line.
> 
> That; is that the rationale for all this? Note that per the defaults
> everything is in a single line already.

Yes, that's because of the loop in:

   dequeue_task()
     uclamp_cpu_dec()
       uclamp_cpu_dec_id()
         uclamp_cpu_update()

where buckets needs sometimes to be scanned to find a new max.

Consider also that, with mapping, we can more easily increase the
buckets count to 20 in order to have a finer clamping granularity if
needed without warring too much about performance impact especially
when we use anyway few different clamp values.

So, I agree that mapping adds (code) complexity but it can also save
few cycles in the fast path... do you think it's not worth the added
complexity?

TBH I never did a proper profiling w/-w/o mapping... I'm just worried
in principle for a loop on 20 entries spanning 4 cache lines. :/

NOTE: the loop is currently going through all the entries anyway,
      but we can add later a guard to bail out once we covered the
      number of active entries.

-- 
#include <best/regards.h>

Patrick Bellasi

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-21 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-15 10:14 [PATCH v6 00/16] Add utilization clamping support Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:14 ` [PATCH v6 01/16] sched/core: Allow sched_setattr() to use the current policy Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-25 13:56   ` Alessio Balsini
2019-01-15 10:14 ` [PATCH v6 02/16] sched/core: uclamp: Extend sched_setattr() to support utilization clamping Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 03/16] sched/core: uclamp: Map TASK's clamp values into CPU's clamp buckets Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 10:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 12:27     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 12:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 15:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 15:34     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 04/16] sched/core: uclamp: Add CPU's clamp buckets refcounting Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 14:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 15:23     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 16:12       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 16:33         ` Patrick Bellasi [this message]
2019-01-22  9:45           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 10:31             ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 15:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 15:54     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 10:03       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 10:53         ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 05/16] sched/core: uclamp: Update CPU's refcount on clamp changes Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 15:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 15:44     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22  9:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 10:43         ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 13:28           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 14:01             ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 14:57               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 15:33                 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23  9:16                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:14                     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 18:59                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 11:21                         ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-24 12:38                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 06/16] sched/core: uclamp: Enforce last task UCLAMP_MAX Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 07/16] sched/core: uclamp: Add system default clamps Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 13:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 14:43     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 15:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 15:41         ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23  9:22           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:19             ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 19:10               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 08/16] sched/cpufreq: uclamp: Add utilization clamping for FAIR tasks Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 10:37   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-01-22 11:02     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 11:04       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-01-22 11:27         ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 15:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 15:45     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 17:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 18:18     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23  9:52       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:24         ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 09/16] sched/cpufreq: uclamp: Add utilization clamping for RT tasks Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 12:30   ` Quentin Perret
2019-01-22 12:37     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 10:28   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:33     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 10:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:40     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 20:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 12:30         ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-24 12:38           ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-24 15:12             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 16:00               ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-24 15:31           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 16:14             ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-24 15:33           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 15:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 16:05     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 10/16] sched/core: Add uclamp_util_with() Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 13:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:51     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 19:22       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 11/16] sched/fair: Add uclamp support to energy_compute() Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 12:13   ` Quentin Perret
2019-01-22 12:45     ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 13:29       ` Quentin Perret
2019-01-22 14:26         ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 14:39           ` Quentin Perret
2019-01-22 15:01             ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 15:14               ` Quentin Perret
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 12/16] sched/core: uclamp: Extend CPU's cgroup controller Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 13/16] sched/core: uclamp: Propagate parent clamps Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 14/16] sched/core: uclamp: Map TG's clamp values into CPU's clamp buckets Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 15/16] sched/core: uclamp: Use TG's clamps to restrict TASK's clamps Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 16/16] sched/core: uclamp: Update CPU's refcount on TG's clamp changes Patrick Bellasi

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