From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>, Todd Kjos <tkjos@google.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
Steve Muckle <smuckle@google.com>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 09/16] sched/cpufreq: uclamp: Add utilization clamping for RT tasks
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 16:31:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190124153106.GQ13777@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190124123009.2yulcf25ld66popd@e110439-lin>
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:30:09PM +0000, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > So I'll have to go over the code again, but I'm wondering why you're
> > changing uclamp_se::bucket_id on a runnable task.
>
> We change only the "requested" value, not the "effective" one.
>
> > Ideally you keep bucket_id invariant between enqueue and dequeue; then
> > dequeue knows where we put it.
>
> Right, that's what we do for the "effective" value.
So the problem I have is that you first introduce uclamp_se::value and
use that all over the code, and then introduce effective and change all
the usage sites.
That seems daft. Why not keep all the code as-is and add orig_value.
> > Now I suppose actually determining bucket_id is 'expensive' (it
> > certainly is with the whole mapping scheme, but even that integer
> > division is not nice), so we'd like to precompute the bucket_id.
>
> Yes, although the complexity is mostly in the composition logic
> described above not on mapping at all. We have "mapping" overheads
> only when we change a "request" value and that's from slow-paths.
It's weird though. Esp. when combined with that mapping logic, because
then you get to use additional maps that are not in fact ever used.
> > We can update uclamp_se::value and set uclamp_se::changed, and then the
> > next enqueue will (unlikely) test-and-clear changed and recompute the
> > bucket_id.
>
> This mean will lazy update the "requested" bucket_id by deferring its
> computation at enqueue time. Which saves us a copy of the bucket_id,
> i.e. we will have only the "effective" value updated at enqueue time.
>
> But...
>
> > Would that not be simpler?
>
> ... although being simpler it does not fully exploit the slow-path,
> a syscall which is usually running from a different process context
> (system management software).
>
> It also fits better for lazy updates but, in the cgroup case, where we
> wanna enforce an update ASAP for RUNNABLE tasks, we will still have to
> do the updates from the slow-path.
>
> Will look better into this simplification while working on v7, perhaps
> the linear mapping can really help in that too.
OK. So mostly my complaint is that it seems to do things odd for ill
explained reasons.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-01-24 15:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-15 10:14 [PATCH v6 00/16] Add utilization clamping support Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:14 ` [PATCH v6 01/16] sched/core: Allow sched_setattr() to use the current policy Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-25 13:56 ` Alessio Balsini
2019-01-15 10:14 ` [PATCH v6 02/16] sched/core: uclamp: Extend sched_setattr() to support utilization clamping Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 03/16] sched/core: uclamp: Map TASK's clamp values into CPU's clamp buckets Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 10:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 12:27 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 12:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 15:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 15:34 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 04/16] sched/core: uclamp: Add CPU's clamp buckets refcounting Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 14:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 15:23 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 16:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 16:33 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 9:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 10:31 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 15:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 15:54 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 10:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 10:53 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 05/16] sched/core: uclamp: Update CPU's refcount on clamp changes Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-21 15:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-21 15:44 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 10:43 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 13:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 14:01 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 14:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 15:33 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 9:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:14 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 18:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 11:21 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-24 12:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 06/16] sched/core: uclamp: Enforce last task UCLAMP_MAX Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 07/16] sched/core: uclamp: Add system default clamps Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 13:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 14:43 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 15:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 15:41 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 9:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:19 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 19:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 08/16] sched/cpufreq: uclamp: Add utilization clamping for FAIR tasks Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 10:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-01-22 11:02 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 11:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-01-22 11:27 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 15:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 15:45 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 17:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-22 18:18 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 9:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:24 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 09/16] sched/cpufreq: uclamp: Add utilization clamping for RT tasks Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 12:30 ` Quentin Perret
2019-01-22 12:37 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:33 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 10:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:40 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 20:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 12:30 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-24 12:38 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-24 15:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 16:00 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-24 15:31 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-01-24 16:14 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-24 15:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 15:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-24 16:05 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 10/16] sched/core: Add uclamp_util_with() Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 13:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-23 14:51 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-23 19:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 11/16] sched/fair: Add uclamp support to energy_compute() Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 12:13 ` Quentin Perret
2019-01-22 12:45 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 13:29 ` Quentin Perret
2019-01-22 14:26 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 14:39 ` Quentin Perret
2019-01-22 15:01 ` Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-22 15:14 ` Quentin Perret
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 12/16] sched/core: uclamp: Extend CPU's cgroup controller Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 13/16] sched/core: uclamp: Propagate parent clamps Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 14/16] sched/core: uclamp: Map TG's clamp values into CPU's clamp buckets Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 15/16] sched/core: uclamp: Use TG's clamps to restrict TASK's clamps Patrick Bellasi
2019-01-15 10:15 ` [PATCH v6 16/16] sched/core: uclamp: Update CPU's refcount on TG's clamp changes Patrick Bellasi
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