From: Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: […] an apology, and a maintainership note
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 10:53:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2936237.GcMzexieOU@merkaba> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2882117.Jnuu2veLAZ@merkaba>
Martin Steigerwald - 17.09.18, 09:57:
> Dear Linus.
>
> Linus Torvalds - 16.09.18, 21:22:
> > This is my reality. I am not an emotionally empathetic kind of
> > person and that probably doesn't come as a big surprise to anybody.
> > Least of all me. The fact that I then misread people and don't
> > realize (for years) how badly I've judged a situation and
> > contributed to an unprofessional environment is not good.
> >
> > This week people in our community confronted me about my lifetime of
> > not understanding emotions. My flippant attacks in emails have been
> > both unprofessional and uncalled for. Especially at times when I
> > made it personal. In my quest for a better patch, this made sense
> > to me. I know now this was not OK and I am truly sorry.
> >
> > The above is basically a long-winded way to get to the somewhat
> > painful personal admission that hey, I need to change some of my
> > behavior, and I want to apologize to the people that my personal
> > behavior hurt and possibly drove away from kernel development
> > entirely.
>
> I applaud you for the courage to go the bold step you have gone with
> this mail. I can imagine coming up with this mail has been challenging
> for you.
>
> Your step provides a big chance for a shift to happen towards a more
> welcoming and friendly Linux kernel community. From what I saw here as
> mostly someone who tests rc kernels and as mostly a by-stander of
> kernel development you may not be the only one here having challenges
> to deal with emotions.
That written: Quite some of the rude mails that contained swearwords I
read from you have been about code, not persons. I think this is an
important distinction. I do not have much of an issue with swearing at
code :), especially when it is in some humorous way.
Code quality indeed is important.
As are human interactions.
--
Martin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-17 8:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-16 19:22 Linux 4.19-rc4 released, an apology, and a maintainership note Linus Torvalds
2018-09-16 21:42 ` [...] " Adam Borowski
2018-09-16 23:59 ` Moritz Obermeier
2018-09-17 0:18 ` Linux 4.19-rc4 released, " Rene Herman
2018-09-17 0:20 ` [...] " Andy Isaacson
2018-09-17 0:23 ` Linux 4.19-rc4 released, " Rene Herman
2018-09-17 6:57 ` opal hart
2018-09-17 7:57 ` […] " Martin Steigerwald
2018-09-17 8:53 ` Martin Steigerwald [this message]
2018-09-30 12:09 ` Re: Linux 4.19-rc4 released, " lkcl
2018-09-30 14:07 ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-09-30 16:27 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-09-17 12:58 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-17 17:09 ` Joe Perches
2018-09-17 21:09 ` Michael Woods
2018-09-18 1:30 ` Pavel Snajdr
2018-09-21 22:13 ` Michael Woods
2018-10-04 14:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-08 15:29 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2018-10-08 13:54 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2018-10-08 16:36 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
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