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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@canonical.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
Cc: "Christian König" <deathsimple@vodafone.de>,
	"Dave Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Thomas Hellstrom" <thellstrom@vmware.com>,
	nouveau <nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Ben Skeggs" <bskeggs@redhat.com>,
	"Deucher, Alexander" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [Nouveau] [PATCH 09/17] drm/radeon: use common fence implementation for fences
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 09:41:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53CF6746.7010905@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53CF64F9.7020701@canonical.com>

Am 23.07.2014 09:32, schrieb Maarten Lankhorst:
> op 23-07-14 09:15, Christian König schreef:
>> Am 23.07.2014 09:09, schrieb Daniel Vetter:
>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Maarten Lankhorst
>>> <maarten.lankhorst@canonical.com> wrote:
>>>>> Can we somehow avoid the need to call fence_signal() at all? The interrupts at least on radeon are way to unreliable for such a thing. Can enable_signalling fail? What's the reason for fence_signaled() in the first place?
>>>> It doesn't need to be completely reliable, or finish immediately.
>>>>
>>>> And any time wake_up_all(&rdev->fence_queue) is called all the fences that were enabled will be rechecked.
>>> I raised this already somewhere else, but should we have some common
>>> infrastructure in the core fence code to recheck fences periodically?
>>> radeon doesn't seem to be the only hw where this isn't reliable
>>> enough. Of course timer-based rechecking would only work if the driver
>>> provides the fence->signalled callback to recheck actual fence state.
>> Yeah, agree. The proposal won't work reliable at all with radeon.
>>
>> Interrupts are accumulated before sending them to the CPU, e.g. you can get one interrupt for multiple fences finished. If it's just the interrupt for the last fence submitted that gets lost you are completely screwed up because you won't get another interrupt.
>>
>> I had that problem multiple times while working on UVD support, resulting in the driver thinking that it can't submit more jobs because non of the interrupts for the already submitted fence cam through.
> Yeah but all the fences that have .enable_signaling will get signaled from a single interrupt, or when any waiter calls radeon_fence_process.

You still need to check if the fence is really signaled, cause 
radeon_fence_process might wakeup the wait queue because of something 
completely different.

Apart from that you once again rely on somebody else calling 
radeon_fence_process. This will probably work most of the times, but 
it's not 100% reliable.

>
>> Apart from that interrupts on Macs usually don't work at all, so we really need a solution where calling fence_signaled() is completely optional.
> I haven't had a problem with interrupts on my mbp after d1f9809ed1315c4cdc5760cf2f59626fd3276952, but it should be trivial to start a timer that periodically does wake_up_all, and gets its timeout reset in a call to radeon_fence_process. It could either be added as a work item, or as a normal timer (disabled during gpu lockup recovery to prevent checks from fiddling with things it shouldn't).

That will probably work, but just again sounds like we force the driver 
to fit the fence implementation instead of the other way around.

Why is that fence_signaled() call needed for in the first place?

Christian.

>
> ~Maarten
>


  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-23  7:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-09 12:29 [PATCH 00/17] Convert TTM to the new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 01/17] drm/ttm: add interruptible parameter to ttm_eu_reserve_buffers Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 02/17] drm/ttm: kill off some members to ttm_validate_buffer Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 03/17] drm/nouveau: add reservation to nouveau_gem_ioctl_cpu_prep Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 04/17] drm/nouveau: require reservations for nouveau_fence_sync and nouveau_bo_fence Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 05/17] drm/ttm: call ttm_bo_wait while inside a reservation Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 06/17] drm/ttm: kill fence_lock Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 07/17] drm/nouveau: rework to new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 08/17] drm/radeon: add timeout argument to radeon_fence_wait_seq Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 09/17] drm/radeon: use common fence implementation for fences Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:57   ` Deucher, Alexander
2014-07-09 13:23     ` [PATCH v2 " Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-10 17:27       ` Alex Deucher
2014-07-22  4:05   ` [PATCH " Dave Airlie
2014-07-22  8:43     ` Christian König
2014-07-22 11:46       ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 11:52         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 11:57         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 12:19           ` Christian König
2014-07-22 13:26             ` [Nouveau] " Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 13:45               ` Christian König
2014-07-22 14:44                 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-22 15:02                   ` Christian König
2014-07-22 15:18                     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-22 15:17                 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 15:35                   ` Christian König
2014-07-22 15:42                     ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 15:59                       ` Christian König
2014-07-22 16:21                         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 16:39                           ` Christian König
2014-07-22 16:52                             ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 16:43                           ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  6:40                         ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23  6:52                           ` Christian König
2014-07-23  7:02                             ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  7:06                             ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23  7:09                               ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  7:15                                 ` Christian König
2014-07-23  7:32                                   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23  7:41                                     ` Christian König [this message]
2014-07-23  7:26                               ` Christian König
2014-07-23  7:31                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  7:37                                   ` Christian König
2014-07-23  7:51                                     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23  7:58                                       ` Christian König
2014-07-23  8:07                                         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  8:20                                           ` Christian König
2014-07-23  8:25                                             ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23  8:42                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  8:46                                                 ` Christian König
2014-07-23  8:54                                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  9:27                                                     ` Christian König
2014-07-23  9:30                                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  9:36                                                         ` Christian König
2014-07-23  9:38                                                           ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23  9:39                                                             ` Christian König
2014-07-23  9:39                                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  9:44                                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  9:47                                                               ` Christian König
2014-07-23  9:52                                                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  9:55                                                                 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23 10:13                                                                   ` Christian König
2014-07-23 10:52                                                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 12:36                                                                       ` Christian König
2014-07-23 12:42                                                                         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 13:16                                                                         ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23 14:05                                                                           ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-24 13:47                                                                             ` Christian König
2014-07-23  8:01                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  8:31                                       ` Christian König
2014-07-23 12:35                             ` Rob Clark
2014-07-22 14:05             ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-22 14:24               ` Christian König
2014-07-22 14:27                 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-22 14:39                   ` Christian König
2014-07-22 14:47                     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-22 15:16                       ` Christian König
2014-07-22 15:19                     ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 15:42                       ` Alex Deucher
2014-07-22 15:48                         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 19:14                           ` Jesse Barnes
2014-07-23  9:47                             ` [Nouveau] " Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 15:37                               ` Jesse Barnes
2014-07-22 11:51     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 10/17] drm/qxl: rework to new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 11/17] drm/vmwgfx: get rid of different types of fence_flags entirely Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 12/17] drm/vmwgfx: rework to new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 13/17] drm/ttm: flip the switch, and convert to dma_fence Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 14/17] drm/nouveau: use rcu in nouveau_gem_ioctl_cpu_prep Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 15/17] drm/radeon: use rcu waits in some ioctls Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 16/17] drm/vmwgfx: use rcu in vmw_user_dmabuf_synccpu_grab Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 17/17] drm/ttm: use rcu in core ttm Maarten Lankhorst
     [not found] ` <CAHbf0-HaFi0px7QGfBErKenH7wDU08B5mxo_QhFJdDPC4WBDrQ@mail.gmail.com>
2014-07-09 13:21   ` [PATCH 00/17] Convert TTM to the new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-10 21:37 ` Thomas Hellström

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