From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@canonical.com>,
Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
Cc: "Christian König" <deathsimple@vodafone.de>,
"Thomas Hellstrom" <thellstrom@vmware.com>,
nouveau <nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"Ben Skeggs" <bskeggs@redhat.com>,
"Deucher, Alexander" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [Nouveau] [PATCH 09/17] drm/radeon: use common fence implementation for fences
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 11:39:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53CF82E7.2040102@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53CF828E.5020201@canonical.com>
Am 23.07.2014 11:38, schrieb Maarten Lankhorst:
> op 23-07-14 11:36, Christian König schreef:
>> Am 23.07.2014 11:30, schrieb Daniel Vetter:
>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Christian König
>>> <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>>>> You submit a job to the hardware and then block the job to wait for radeon
>>>> to be finished? Well than this would indeed require a hardware reset, but
>>>> wouldn't that make the whole problem even worse?
>>>>
>>>> I mean currently we block one userspace process to wait for other hardware
>>>> to be finished with a buffer, but what you are describing here blocks the
>>>> whole hardware to wait for other hardware which in the end blocks all
>>>> userspace process accessing the hardware.
>>> There is nothing new here with prime - if one context hangs the gpu it
>>> blocks everyone else on i915.
>>>
>>>> Talking about alternative approaches wouldn't it be simpler to just offload
>>>> the waiting to a different kernel or userspace thread?
>>> Well this is exactly what we'll do once we have the scheduler. But
>>> this is an orthogonal issue imo.
>> Mhm, could have the scheduler first?
>>
>> Cause that sounds like reducing the necessary fence interface to just a fence->wait function.
> You would also lose benefits like having a 'perf timechart' for gpu's.
I can live with that, when it reduces the complexity of the fence interface.
Christian.
>
> ~Maarten
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-23 9:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-09 12:29 [PATCH 00/17] Convert TTM to the new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 01/17] drm/ttm: add interruptible parameter to ttm_eu_reserve_buffers Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 02/17] drm/ttm: kill off some members to ttm_validate_buffer Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 03/17] drm/nouveau: add reservation to nouveau_gem_ioctl_cpu_prep Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 04/17] drm/nouveau: require reservations for nouveau_fence_sync and nouveau_bo_fence Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 05/17] drm/ttm: call ttm_bo_wait while inside a reservation Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 06/17] drm/ttm: kill fence_lock Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 07/17] drm/nouveau: rework to new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 08/17] drm/radeon: add timeout argument to radeon_fence_wait_seq Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 09/17] drm/radeon: use common fence implementation for fences Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:57 ` Deucher, Alexander
2014-07-09 13:23 ` [PATCH v2 " Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-10 17:27 ` Alex Deucher
2014-07-22 4:05 ` [PATCH " Dave Airlie
2014-07-22 8:43 ` Christian König
2014-07-22 11:46 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 11:52 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 11:57 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 12:19 ` Christian König
2014-07-22 13:26 ` [Nouveau] " Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 13:45 ` Christian König
2014-07-22 14:44 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-22 15:02 ` Christian König
2014-07-22 15:18 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-22 15:17 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 15:35 ` Christian König
2014-07-22 15:42 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 15:59 ` Christian König
2014-07-22 16:21 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 16:39 ` Christian König
2014-07-22 16:52 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 16:43 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 6:40 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23 6:52 ` Christian König
2014-07-23 7:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 7:06 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23 7:09 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 7:15 ` Christian König
2014-07-23 7:32 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23 7:41 ` Christian König
2014-07-23 7:26 ` Christian König
2014-07-23 7:31 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 7:37 ` Christian König
2014-07-23 7:51 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23 7:58 ` Christian König
2014-07-23 8:07 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 8:20 ` Christian König
2014-07-23 8:25 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23 8:42 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 8:46 ` Christian König
2014-07-23 8:54 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 9:27 ` Christian König
2014-07-23 9:30 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 9:36 ` Christian König
2014-07-23 9:38 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23 9:39 ` Christian König [this message]
2014-07-23 9:39 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 9:44 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 9:47 ` Christian König
2014-07-23 9:52 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 9:55 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23 10:13 ` Christian König
2014-07-23 10:52 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 12:36 ` Christian König
2014-07-23 12:42 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 13:16 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23 14:05 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-24 13:47 ` Christian König
2014-07-23 8:01 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 8:31 ` Christian König
2014-07-23 12:35 ` Rob Clark
2014-07-22 14:05 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-22 14:24 ` Christian König
2014-07-22 14:27 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-22 14:39 ` Christian König
2014-07-22 14:47 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-22 15:16 ` Christian König
2014-07-22 15:19 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 15:42 ` Alex Deucher
2014-07-22 15:48 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 19:14 ` Jesse Barnes
2014-07-23 9:47 ` [Nouveau] " Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 15:37 ` Jesse Barnes
2014-07-22 11:51 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 10/17] drm/qxl: rework to new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 11/17] drm/vmwgfx: get rid of different types of fence_flags entirely Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 12/17] drm/vmwgfx: rework to new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 13/17] drm/ttm: flip the switch, and convert to dma_fence Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 14/17] drm/nouveau: use rcu in nouveau_gem_ioctl_cpu_prep Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 15/17] drm/radeon: use rcu waits in some ioctls Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 16/17] drm/vmwgfx: use rcu in vmw_user_dmabuf_synccpu_grab Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 17/17] drm/ttm: use rcu in core ttm Maarten Lankhorst
[not found] ` <CAHbf0-HaFi0px7QGfBErKenH7wDU08B5mxo_QhFJdDPC4WBDrQ@mail.gmail.com>
2014-07-09 13:21 ` [PATCH 00/17] Convert TTM to the new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-10 21:37 ` Thomas Hellström
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