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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: "Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Christian König" <deathsimple@vodafone.de>
Cc: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@canonical.com>,
	Thomas Hellstrom <thellstrom@vmware.com>,
	nouveau <nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Ben Skeggs <bskeggs@redhat.com>,
	"Deucher, Alexander" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [Nouveau] [PATCH 09/17] drm/radeon: use common fence implementation for fences
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 10:20:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53CF7035.2060808@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uGd65HR11thcv8KjDw-RnTa7W-QGOzFGFd+oO_hp8wyHA@mail.gmail.com>

Am 23.07.2014 10:07, schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Christian König
> <deathsimple@vodafone.de> wrote:
>> Just imagine an application using prime is locking up Radeon and because of
>> that gets killed by the user. Nothing else in the system would use the
>> Radeon hardware any more and so radeon gets only called by another driver
>> waiting patiently for radeon to finish rendering which never happens because
>> the whole thing is locked up and we don't get a chance to recover.
> But isn't that possible already without fences? X hangs radeon, user
> crashes X for unrelated reasons before radeon will notice the hang.
> Then no one uses radeon any longer and the hang stays undetected.

Yeah, especially with multimedia application. But I don't really care 
about this problem because the next time an application tries to use the 
block in question we actually do the reset and everything is fine.

In your example we would do the reset when the next X server starts, 
before that point nobody would care because nobody uses the hardware.

An additional problem here is that resets are something perfect normal 
for radeon. For example UVD can "crash" when you feed it with invalid 
bitstream data, (ok actually it send an interrupt and stops any 
processing for the driver to investigate). To continue processing you 
need to go through a rather complicated reset procedure.

Christian.

> -Daniel


  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-23  8:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-09 12:29 [PATCH 00/17] Convert TTM to the new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 01/17] drm/ttm: add interruptible parameter to ttm_eu_reserve_buffers Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 02/17] drm/ttm: kill off some members to ttm_validate_buffer Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 03/17] drm/nouveau: add reservation to nouveau_gem_ioctl_cpu_prep Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 04/17] drm/nouveau: require reservations for nouveau_fence_sync and nouveau_bo_fence Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 05/17] drm/ttm: call ttm_bo_wait while inside a reservation Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 06/17] drm/ttm: kill fence_lock Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 07/17] drm/nouveau: rework to new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 08/17] drm/radeon: add timeout argument to radeon_fence_wait_seq Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 09/17] drm/radeon: use common fence implementation for fences Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:57   ` Deucher, Alexander
2014-07-09 13:23     ` [PATCH v2 " Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-10 17:27       ` Alex Deucher
2014-07-22  4:05   ` [PATCH " Dave Airlie
2014-07-22  8:43     ` Christian König
2014-07-22 11:46       ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 11:52         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 11:57         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 12:19           ` Christian König
2014-07-22 13:26             ` [Nouveau] " Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 13:45               ` Christian König
2014-07-22 14:44                 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-22 15:02                   ` Christian König
2014-07-22 15:18                     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-22 15:17                 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 15:35                   ` Christian König
2014-07-22 15:42                     ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 15:59                       ` Christian König
2014-07-22 16:21                         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 16:39                           ` Christian König
2014-07-22 16:52                             ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 16:43                           ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  6:40                         ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23  6:52                           ` Christian König
2014-07-23  7:02                             ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  7:06                             ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23  7:09                               ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  7:15                                 ` Christian König
2014-07-23  7:32                                   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23  7:41                                     ` Christian König
2014-07-23  7:26                               ` Christian König
2014-07-23  7:31                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  7:37                                   ` Christian König
2014-07-23  7:51                                     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23  7:58                                       ` Christian König
2014-07-23  8:07                                         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  8:20                                           ` Christian König [this message]
2014-07-23  8:25                                             ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23  8:42                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  8:46                                                 ` Christian König
2014-07-23  8:54                                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  9:27                                                     ` Christian König
2014-07-23  9:30                                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  9:36                                                         ` Christian König
2014-07-23  9:38                                                           ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23  9:39                                                             ` Christian König
2014-07-23  9:39                                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  9:44                                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  9:47                                                               ` Christian König
2014-07-23  9:52                                                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  9:55                                                                 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23 10:13                                                                   ` Christian König
2014-07-23 10:52                                                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 12:36                                                                       ` Christian König
2014-07-23 12:42                                                                         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 13:16                                                                         ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-23 14:05                                                                           ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-24 13:47                                                                             ` Christian König
2014-07-23  8:01                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23  8:31                                       ` Christian König
2014-07-23 12:35                             ` Rob Clark
2014-07-22 14:05             ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-22 14:24               ` Christian König
2014-07-22 14:27                 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-22 14:39                   ` Christian König
2014-07-22 14:47                     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-22 15:16                       ` Christian König
2014-07-22 15:19                     ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 15:42                       ` Alex Deucher
2014-07-22 15:48                         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-07-22 19:14                           ` Jesse Barnes
2014-07-23  9:47                             ` [Nouveau] " Daniel Vetter
2014-07-23 15:37                               ` Jesse Barnes
2014-07-22 11:51     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:29 ` [PATCH 10/17] drm/qxl: rework to new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 11/17] drm/vmwgfx: get rid of different types of fence_flags entirely Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 12/17] drm/vmwgfx: rework to new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 13/17] drm/ttm: flip the switch, and convert to dma_fence Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 14/17] drm/nouveau: use rcu in nouveau_gem_ioctl_cpu_prep Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 15/17] drm/radeon: use rcu waits in some ioctls Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 16/17] drm/vmwgfx: use rcu in vmw_user_dmabuf_synccpu_grab Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 17/17] drm/ttm: use rcu in core ttm Maarten Lankhorst
     [not found] ` <CAHbf0-HaFi0px7QGfBErKenH7wDU08B5mxo_QhFJdDPC4WBDrQ@mail.gmail.com>
2014-07-09 13:21   ` [PATCH 00/17] Convert TTM to the new fence interface Maarten Lankhorst
2014-07-10 21:37 ` Thomas Hellström

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