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From: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
To: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Thierry Reding" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Hunter" <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	"Viresh Kumar" <vireshk@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 13/35] drm/tegra: gr2d: Support generic power domain and runtime PM
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 10:45:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPDyKFpWzLdKr0bYX4VYwNpPuJNEs=weEpNpDH6zfv9e8SaxJQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f5b5e06a-71ed-1250-f0ad-692062e00e01@gmail.com>

On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 at 17:57, Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 04.10.2021 14:01, Ulf Hansson пишет:
> > On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 21:00, Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> 01.10.2021 17:55, Ulf Hansson пишет:
> >>> On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 16:29, Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> 01.10.2021 16:39, Ulf Hansson пишет:
> >>>>> On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 00:42, Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Add runtime power management and support generic power domains.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tested-by: Peter Geis <pgwipeout@gmail.com> # Ouya T30
> >>>>>> Tested-by: Paul Fertser <fercerpav@gmail.com> # PAZ00 T20
> >>>>>> Tested-by: Nicolas Chauvet <kwizart@gmail.com> # PAZ00 T20 and TK1 T124
> >>>>>> Tested-by: Matt Merhar <mattmerhar@protonmail.com> # Ouya T30
> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/tegra/gr2d.c | 155 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [...]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>  static int gr2d_remove(struct platform_device *pdev)
> >>>>>> @@ -259,15 +312,101 @@ static int gr2d_remove(struct platform_device *pdev)
> >>>>>>                 return err;
> >>>>>>         }
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> +       pm_runtime_dont_use_autosuspend(&pdev->dev);
> >>>>>> +       pm_runtime_disable(&pdev->dev);
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is no guarantee that the ->runtime_suspend() has been invoked
> >>>>> here, which means that clock may be left prepared/enabled beyond this
> >>>>> point.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I suggest you call pm_runtime_force_suspend(), instead of
> >>>>> pm_runtime_disable(), to make sure that gets done.
> >>>>
> >>>> The pm_runtime_disable() performs the final synchronization, please see [1].
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]
> >>>> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.15-rc3/source/drivers/base/power/runtime.c#L1412
> >>>
> >>> pm_runtime_disable() end up calling _pm_runtime_barrier(), which calls
> >>> cancel_work_sync() if dev->power.request_pending has been set.
> >>>
> >>> If the work that was punted to the pm_wq in rpm_idle() has not been
> >>> started yet, we end up just canceling it. In other words, there are no
> >>> guarantees it runs to completion.
> >>
> >> You're right. Although, in a case of this particular patch, the syncing
> >> is actually implicitly done by pm_runtime_dont_use_autosuspend().
> >>
> >> But for drivers which don't use auto-suspend, there is no sync. This
> >> looks like a disaster, it's a very common pattern for drivers to
> >> 'put+disable'.
> >>
> >>> Moreover, use space may have bumped the usage count via sysfs for the
> >>> device (pm_runtime_forbid()) to keep the device runtime resumed.
> >>
> >> Right, this is also a disaster in a case of driver removal.
> >>
> >>>> Calling pm_runtime_force_suspend() isn't correct because each 'enable'
> >>>> must have the corresponding 'disable'. Hence there is no problem here.
> >>>
> >>> pm_runtime_force_suspend() calls pm_runtime_disable(), so I think that
> >>> should be fine. No?
> >>
> >> [adding Rafael]
> >>
> >> Rafael, could you please explain how drivers are supposed to properly
> >> suspend and disable RPM to cut off power and reset state that was
> >> altered by the driver's resume callback? What we're missing? Is Ulf's
> >> suggestion acceptable?
> >>
> >> The RPM state of a device is getting reset on driver's removal, hence
> >> all refcounts that were bumped by the rpm-resume callback of the device
> >> driver will be screwed up if device is kept resumed after removal. I
> >> just verified that it's true in practice.
> >
> > Note that, what makes the Tegra drivers a bit special is that they are
> > always built with CONFIG_PM being set (selected from the "SoC"
> > Kconfig).
> >
> > Therefore, pm_runtime_force_suspend() can work for some of these
> > cases. Using this, would potentially avoid the driver from having to
> > runtime resume the device in ->remove(), according to the below
> > generic sequence, which is used in many drivers.
> >
> > pm_runtime_get_sync()
> > clk_disable_unprepare() (+ additional things to turn off the device)
> > pm_runtime_disable()
> > pm_runtime_put_noidle()
>
> It's not a problem to change this patchset. The problem is that if
> you'll grep mainline for 'pm_runtime_disable', you will find that there
> are a lot of drivers in a potential trouble.

Let's start by fixing this patchset, please - then we can consider
what to do with the other cases separately.

>
> I'm proposing that we should change pm_runtime_disable() to perform the
> syncing with this oneliner:
>
> diff --git a/drivers/base/power/runtime.c b/drivers/base/power/runtime.c
> index ec94049442b9..5c9f28165824 100644
> --- a/drivers/base/power/runtime.c
> +++ b/drivers/base/power/runtime.c
> @@ -1380,6 +1380,8 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(pm_runtime_barrier);
>   */
>  void __pm_runtime_disable(struct device *dev, bool check_resume)
>  {
> +       flush_work(&dev->power.work);
> +

What about the latency this may introduce? I am not sure that is
acceptable here!?

>         spin_lock_irq(&dev->power.lock);
>
>         if (dev->power.disable_depth > 0) {
>
> Objections?
>
> The sysfs rpm-forbid is a separate problem and it's less troublesome
> since it requires root privileges. It's also not something that
> userspace touches casually. For now I don't know what could be done
> about it.

As I said, the common method to address this problem is to run the
following sequence:

pm_runtime_get_sync()
"power off the device"
pm_runtime_disable()
pm_runtime_put_noidle()

This works even if user space, via sysfs, has triggered a call to
pm_runtime_forbid(). Or doesn't it?

If you don't like it, pm_runtime_force_suspend() should work too, at
least for your cases, I believe.

Kind regards
Uffe

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-05  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-26 22:40 [PATCH v13 00/35] NVIDIA Tegra power management patches for 5.16 Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 01/35] opp: Change type of dev_pm_opp_attach_genpd(names) argument Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-04  9:11   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 02/35] soc/tegra: Add devm_tegra_core_dev_init_opp_table_common() Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-01 12:50   ` Ulf Hansson
2021-10-01 19:15     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 03/35] soc/tegra: pmc: Disable PMC state syncing Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 04/35] soc/tegra: Don't print error message when OPPs not available Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 05/35] dt-bindings: clock: tegra-car: Document new clock sub-nodes Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 06/35] clk: tegra: Support runtime PM and power domain Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-01 12:32   ` Ulf Hansson
2021-10-01 19:50     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-02 20:44     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-05 13:10       ` Ulf Hansson
2021-10-05 22:19         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-05 22:43           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-06  2:40             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-06 12:43             ` Ulf Hansson
2021-10-06 21:14               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-06 22:01                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-06 23:21                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-07  9:18                     ` Ulf Hansson
2021-10-07 10:36                       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-06 12:38           ` Ulf Hansson
2021-10-06 21:20             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-06 21:25             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-06 22:03             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 07/35] dt-bindings: host1x: Document OPP and power domain properties Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 08/35] dt-bindings: host1x: Document Memory Client resets of Host1x, GR2D and GR3D Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 09/35] gpu: host1x: Add runtime PM and OPP support Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-01 13:24   ` Ulf Hansson
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 10/35] gpu: host1x: Add host1x_channel_stop() Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 11/35] drm/tegra: dc: Support OPP and SoC core voltage scaling Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-01 13:27   ` Ulf Hansson
2021-10-16 15:36     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 12/35] drm/tegra: hdmi: Add OPP support Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 13/35] drm/tegra: gr2d: Support generic power domain and runtime PM Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-01 13:39   ` Ulf Hansson
2021-10-01 14:29     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-01 14:55       ` Ulf Hansson
2021-10-01 19:00         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-04 11:01           ` Ulf Hansson
2021-10-04 15:57             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-05  8:45               ` Ulf Hansson [this message]
2021-10-05 17:16                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 14/35] drm/tegra: gr3d: " Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-01 14:06   ` Ulf Hansson
2021-10-01 21:25     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 15/35] drm/tegra: vic: Support system suspend Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 16/35] usb: chipidea: tegra: Add runtime PM and OPP support Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-30  0:40   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-30 14:06   ` Peter Chen
2021-09-30 14:08     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 17/35] bus: tegra-gmi: " Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-01 14:18   ` Ulf Hansson
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 18/35] pwm: tegra: " Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 19/35] mmc: sdhci-tegra: " Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 20/35] mtd: rawnand: tegra: " Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-01 14:24   ` Ulf Hansson
2021-10-01 14:35     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-01 15:01       ` Ulf Hansson
2021-10-17  8:38         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-19 11:40           ` Ulf Hansson
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 21/35] spi: tegra20-slink: Add " Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 22/35] media: dt: bindings: tegra-vde: Convert to schema Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 23/35] media: dt: bindings: tegra-vde: Document OPP and power domain Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 24/35] media: staging: tegra-vde: Support generic " Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 25/35] soc/tegra: fuse: Reset hardware Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 26/35] soc/tegra: fuse: Use resource-managed helpers Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 27/35] soc/tegra: regulators: Prepare for suspend Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 28/35] soc/tegra: pmc: Rename 3d power domains Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 29/35] soc/tegra: pmc: Rename core power domain Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 30/35] soc/tegra: pmc: Enable core domain support for Tegra20 and Tegra30 Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 31/35] ARM: tegra: Add OPP tables and power domains to Tegra20 device-trees Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 32/35] ARM: tegra: Add OPP tables and power domains to Tegra30 device-trees Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 33/35] ARM: tegra: Add Memory Client resets to Tegra20 GR2D, GR3D and Host1x Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 34/35] ARM: tegra: Add Memory Client resets to Tegra30 " Dmitry Osipenko
2021-09-26 22:40 ` [PATCH v13 35/35] ARM: tegra20/30: Disable unused host1x hardware Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-01 14:36 ` [PATCH v13 00/35] NVIDIA Tegra power management patches for 5.16 Ulf Hansson
2021-10-01 14:40   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2021-10-01 15:02     ` Ulf Hansson
2021-10-04  9:11 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-10-04 14:52   ` Dmitry Osipenko

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