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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Rafael J Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan 
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
	Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/21] TDX host kernel support
Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 06:51:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4iP3hcNNDxNdPT+iB0E4aUazfqFWwaa_dtHpVf+qKPNcQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6bb89ca6e7346f4334f06ea293f29fd12df70fe4.camel@intel.com>

[ add Mike ]


On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 2:54 AM Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com> wrote:
[..]
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Sorry to ping (trying to close this).
>
> Given we don't need to consider kmem-hot-add legacy PMEM after TDX module
> initialization, I think for now it's totally fine to exclude legacy PMEMs from
> TDMRs.  The worst case is when someone tries to use them as TD guest backend
> directly, the TD will fail to create.  IMO it's acceptable, as it is supposedly
> that no one should just use some random backend to run TD.

The platform will already do this, right? I don't understand why this
is trying to take proactive action versus documenting the error
conditions and steps someone needs to take to avoid unconvertible
memory. There is already the CONFIG_HMEM_REPORTING that describes
relative performance properties between initiators and targets, it
seems fitting to also add security properties between initiators and
targets so someone can enumerate the numa-mempolicy that avoids
unconvertible memory.

No, special casing in hotplug code paths needed.

>
> I think w/o needing to include legacy PMEM, it's better to get all TDX memory
> blocks based on memblock, but not e820.  The pages managed by page allocator are
> from memblock anyway (w/o those from memory hotplug).
>
> And I also think it makes more sense to introduce 'tdx_memblock' and
> 'tdx_memory' data structures to gather all TDX memory blocks during boot when
> memblock is still alive.  When TDX module is initialized during runtime, TDMRs
> can be created based on the 'struct tdx_memory' which contains all TDX memory
> blocks we gathered based on memblock during boot.  This is also more flexible to
> support other TDX memory from other sources such as CLX memory in the future.
>
> Please let me know if you have any objection?  Thanks!

It's already the case that x86 maintains sideband structures to
preserve memory after exiting the early memblock code. Mike, correct
me if I am wrong, but adding more is less desirable than just keeping
the memblock around?

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-05 13:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-06  4:49 [PATCH v3 00/21] TDX host kernel support Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 01/21] x86/virt/tdx: Detect SEAM Kai Huang
2022-04-18 22:29   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-18 22:50     ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-19  3:38     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:21   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-26 23:12     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 23:28       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-26 23:49         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27  0:22           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-27  0:44             ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 14:22           ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27 22:39             ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 02/21] x86/virt/tdx: Detect TDX private KeyIDs Kai Huang
2022-04-19  5:39   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-19  9:41     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-19  5:42   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-19 10:07     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 03/21] x86/virt/tdx: Implement the SEAMCALL base function Kai Huang
2022-04-19 14:07   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20  4:16     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-20  7:29       ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20 10:39         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:37   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-26 23:29     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 04/21] x86/virt/tdx: Add skeleton for detecting and initializing TDX on demand Kai Huang
2022-04-19 14:53   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20  4:37     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-20  5:21       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-20 14:30       ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20 22:35         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:53   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27  0:43     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 14:49       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  0:00         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 14:27           ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28 23:44             ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 23:53               ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29  0:11                 ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29  0:26                   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29  0:59                     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 05/21] x86/virt/tdx: Detect P-SEAMLDR and TDX module Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:56   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27  0:01     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 14:24       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27 21:30         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 06/21] x86/virt/tdx: Shut down TDX module in case of error Kai Huang
2022-04-23 15:39   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-25 23:41     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26  1:48       ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-26  2:12         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:59   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27  0:06     ` Kai Huang
2022-05-18 16:19       ` Sagi Shahar
2022-05-18 23:51         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 07/21] x86/virt/tdx: Do TDX module global initialization Kai Huang
2022-04-20 22:27   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-20 22:37     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 08/21] x86/virt/tdx: Do logical-cpu scope TDX module initialization Kai Huang
2022-04-24  1:27   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-25 23:55     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 09/21] x86/virt/tdx: Get information about TDX module and convertible memory Kai Huang
2022-04-25  2:58   ` Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy
2022-04-26  0:05     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 22:15   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  0:15     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 14:06       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28 23:14         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29 17:47           ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-02  5:04             ` Kai Huang
2022-05-25  4:47             ` Kai Huang
2022-05-25  4:57               ` Kai Huang
2022-05-25 16:00                 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-18 22:30       ` Sagi Shahar
2022-05-18 23:56         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 10/21] x86/virt/tdx: Add placeholder to coveret all system RAM as TDX memory Kai Huang
2022-04-20 20:48   ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-04-20 22:38     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 22:24   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  0:53     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28  1:07       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  1:35         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28  3:40           ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  3:55             ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 11/21] x86/virt/tdx: Choose to use " Kai Huang
2022-04-20 20:55   ` Isaku Yamahata
2022-04-20 22:39     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28 15:54   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29  7:32     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 12/21] x86/virt/tdx: Create TDMRs to cover all system RAM Kai Huang
2022-04-28 16:22   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29  7:24     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29 13:52       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 13/21] x86/virt/tdx: Allocate and set up PAMTs for TDMRs Kai Huang
2022-04-28 17:12   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29  7:46     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29 14:20       ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 14:30         ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-29 17:46           ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 18:19             ` Sean Christopherson
2022-04-29 18:32               ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-02  5:59         ` Kai Huang
2022-05-02 14:17           ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-02 21:55             ` Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 14/21] x86/virt/tdx: Set up reserved areas for all TDMRs Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 15/21] x86/virt/tdx: Reserve TDX module global KeyID Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 16/21] x86/virt/tdx: Configure TDX module with TDMRs and " Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 17/21] x86/virt/tdx: Configure global KeyID on all packages Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 18/21] x86/virt/tdx: Initialize all TDMRs Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 19/21] x86: Flush cache of TDX private memory during kexec() Kai Huang
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 20/21] x86/virt/tdx: Add kernel command line to opt-in TDX host support Kai Huang
2022-04-28 17:25   ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-06  4:49 ` [PATCH v3 21/21] Documentation/x86: Add documentation for " Kai Huang
2022-04-14 10:19 ` [PATCH v3 00/21] TDX host kernel support Kai Huang
2022-04-26 20:13 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-27  1:15   ` Kai Huang
2022-04-27 21:59     ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  0:37       ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28  0:50         ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-28  0:58           ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29  1:40             ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29  3:04               ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29  5:35                 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-03 23:59               ` Kai Huang
2022-05-04  0:25                 ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-04  1:15                   ` Kai Huang
2022-05-05  9:54                     ` Kai Huang
2022-05-05 13:51                       ` Dan Williams [this message]
2022-05-05 22:14                         ` Kai Huang
2022-05-06  0:22                           ` Dan Williams
2022-05-06  0:45                             ` Kai Huang
2022-05-06  1:15                               ` Dan Williams
2022-05-06  1:46                                 ` Kai Huang
2022-05-06 15:57                                   ` Dan Williams
2022-05-09  2:46                                     ` Kai Huang
2022-05-10 10:25                                       ` Kai Huang
2022-05-07  0:09                         ` Mike Rapoport
2022-05-08 10:00                           ` Kai Huang
2022-05-09 10:33                             ` Mike Rapoport
2022-05-09 23:27                               ` Kai Huang
2022-05-04 14:31                 ` Dan Williams
2022-05-04 22:50                   ` Kai Huang
2022-04-28  1:01   ` Dan Williams
2022-04-28  1:21     ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29  2:58       ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29  5:43         ` Kai Huang
2022-04-29 14:39         ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 15:18           ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29 17:18             ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 17:48               ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29 18:34                 ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 18:47                   ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29 19:20                     ` Dave Hansen
2022-04-29 21:20                       ` Dan Williams
2022-04-29 21:27                         ` Dave Hansen
2022-05-02 10:18                   ` Kai Huang

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