From: Michael Loftis <mloftis@wgops.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: dtor_core@ameritech.net,
James Courtier-Dutton <James@superbug.co.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Development tree, PLEASE?
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 12:21:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E27F809F04C1C673D283E84F@d216-220-25-20.dynip.modwest.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200601201903.k0KJ3qI7006425@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
--On January 20, 2006 2:03:52 PM -0500 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> But you're perfectly happy to make the kernel developers do the
> equivalent thing when they have to maintain 2 forks (a stable and devel).
> Go back and look at the status of the 2.5 tree - there were *large*
> chunks of time when 2.4 or 2.5 would get an important bugfix, but the
> other tree wouldn't get it for *weeks* because of the hassle of
> cross-porting the patch.
To more fully respond though....
Weeks is fine, and better than never. And there may be cases in which the
decision has to be made to 'abandon' a particular stable release in favor
of a newer version because of the difficulty or inability to backport fixes.
I think that it's fine to push the maintenance effort away from the
mainline developers, probably even desireable, but then the bugfixing/etc
tends to happen in a disparate manner, off on lots of forks at different
places without them making their way back to some central place.
And that seems where we're going with this conversation. A fork/forks at
various versions to maintain bugfixes and support updates that's (more?)
open to submitters writing patches. Maintained by a separate group or
party, but with the 'blessing' from mainline to do so. A place for those
sorts of efforts to be focused, without necessarily involving the primary
developers.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-20 19:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-20 15:17 Development tree, PLEASE? Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 15:31 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 15:59 ` Marc Koschewski
2006-01-20 16:07 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 16:34 ` Marc Koschewski
2006-01-20 17:04 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 16:35 ` Marc Koschewski
2006-01-20 17:06 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 17:31 ` Diego Calleja
2006-01-20 20:43 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-20 16:41 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-20 17:14 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 19:43 ` Greg KH
2006-01-20 20:56 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 21:06 ` Christopher Friesen
2006-01-20 23:00 ` Horst von Brand
2006-01-20 23:17 ` Russell King
2006-01-20 23:33 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 23:55 ` Russell King
2006-01-21 0:05 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-21 0:26 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2006-01-20 23:27 ` Greg KH
2006-01-20 23:52 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-21 0:03 ` Russell King
2006-01-21 1:38 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-20 20:25 ` Russell King
2006-01-20 22:05 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 22:54 ` Horst von Brand
2006-01-20 16:40 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-01-20 16:48 ` Marc Koschewski
2006-01-20 16:55 ` Dmitry Torokhov
[not found] ` <20060120172431.GE5873@stiffy.osknowledge.org>
2006-01-20 17:43 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-01-20 17:53 ` Marc Koschewski
2006-01-20 18:00 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-01-20 18:06 ` Marc Koschewski
2006-02-13 17:17 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-01-20 16:29 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-01-20 16:36 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 16:50 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-01-20 17:31 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 19:03 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-01-20 19:10 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 23:20 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-20 23:54 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 19:21 ` Michael Loftis [this message]
2006-01-20 19:24 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-01-20 20:00 ` Russell King
2006-01-20 21:21 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 21:40 ` Doug McNaught
2006-01-20 22:09 ` Michael Loftis
2006-02-02 12:16 ` David Weinehall
2006-02-02 18:25 ` Michael Loftis
2006-02-02 20:10 ` Dave Jones
2006-02-02 22:05 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-02-02 22:10 ` Dave Jones
2006-02-02 22:19 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-02-02 22:31 ` Dave Jones
2006-02-02 22:42 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-02-03 1:29 ` Roman Zippel
2006-02-03 4:45 ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-02-03 12:28 ` Roman Zippel
2006-02-03 16:04 ` Dave Jones
2006-02-02 22:01 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-02-02 22:31 ` Christopher Friesen
2006-02-03 5:08 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-02-02 22:15 ` David Weinehall
2006-02-02 22:47 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 20:10 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2006-01-20 20:20 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-20 21:48 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 22:00 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2006-01-20 22:14 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-21 9:22 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-21 14:52 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-21 17:03 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-20 21:50 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-21 9:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-20 16:53 ` Joe George
2006-01-20 17:03 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-01-20 17:33 ` Joe George
[not found] ` <20060120121116.62a8f0a6.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-01-20 17:11 ` sean
2006-01-20 17:56 ` Development tree, please? Michael Loftis
[not found] ` <20060120131120.338ebf17.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-01-20 18:11 ` sean
2006-01-20 18:43 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 17:11 ` Development tree, PLEASE? Diego Calleja
2006-01-21 1:56 ` Matthew Frost
2006-01-21 3:19 ` Matthew Frost
2006-01-21 7:22 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-21 7:38 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-21 21:56 ` Sven-Haegar Koch
2006-01-21 22:18 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-21 22:40 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-21 22:47 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-21 22:51 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-22 8:57 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-22 9:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-01-22 16:09 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-22 22:59 ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-01-21 22:49 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-21 23:03 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-22 9:03 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-22 17:03 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-25 21:30 ` Nix
2006-01-25 21:36 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-25 22:12 ` Nix
2006-01-26 8:44 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-26 21:12 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-26 21:44 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-01-22 17:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-01-22 17:24 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-21 11:28 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-21 18:09 ` Horst von Brand
2006-01-20 17:08 ` Gábor Lénárt
2006-01-21 0:36 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-20 19:16 ` Greg KH
2006-01-20 19:27 ` Ben Collins
2006-01-20 22:04 ` Vincent Hanquez
2006-01-21 18:29 ` Johan Kullstam
2006-01-23 13:45 ` Vincent Hanquez
2006-01-24 15:35 ` Bob Copeland
2006-01-21 11:41 ` Ralf Baechle
2006-01-21 6:58 Michael Loftis
2006-03-14 13:57 Chuck Ebbert
2006-03-14 14:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-16 20:17 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-03-16 20:21 ` Jan Engelhardt
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