From: Bryan Henderson <hbryan@us.ibm.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: akpm@osdl.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pavel@ucw.cz, torvalds@osdl.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [Request for inclusion] Filesystem in Userspace
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:00:36 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <OF43CCF252.FCCFAB5B-ON88256F50.005CE35E-88256F50.005D8559@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1CUhTd-0006c8-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
> 2) doing non-blocking asynchronous writepage
>
>In the second case there is no deadlock, because the memory subsystem
>doesn't wait for data to be written. If the filesystem refuses to
>write back data in a timely manner, memory will get full and OOM
>killer will go to work.
I don't see how the OOM killer can help you here. The OOM killer deals
with the system being out of virtual memory; writepage is about freeing
real memory. The real memory allocator will wait forever if it has to for
pageouts to complete so that it can evict a page and free up real memory.
If a pageout requires a user space process to run, and the user space
process requires additional real memory (e.g. in order to swap something
in from swap space) to do the pageout, you can have a deadlock.
--
Bryan Henderson IBM Almaden Research Center
San Jose CA Filesystems
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-18 17:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-11-15 21:15 [PATCH] [Request for inclusion] Filesystem in Userspace Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-15 21:43 ` Greg KH
2004-11-15 22:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-16 9:08 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-16 9:18 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-11-16 9:40 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-16 9:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-11-16 9:52 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-16 10:17 ` David Woodhouse
2004-11-16 10:25 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-16 10:13 ` Pekka Enberg
2004-11-16 10:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-16 10:35 ` Pekka Enberg
2004-11-16 10:42 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-16 12:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2004-11-16 11:01 ` Simon Braunschmidt
2004-11-16 11:20 ` Pekka Enberg
2004-11-16 15:18 ` Ralph Corderoy
2004-11-16 12:31 ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-11-16 11:02 ` Jan Kratochvil
2004-11-16 14:01 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-16 16:33 ` Greg KH
2004-11-16 16:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-16 17:03 ` Greg KH
2004-11-16 17:50 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-16 17:58 ` Greg KH
2004-11-16 19:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-16 19:16 ` Greg KH
2004-11-16 19:30 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-16 19:38 ` Greg KH
2004-11-16 19:24 ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-11-16 19:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-16 19:42 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2004-11-16 19:48 ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-11-16 20:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-17 15:42 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-17 16:57 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-17 17:10 ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-11-17 17:33 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-17 17:38 ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-11-17 17:58 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-17 18:09 ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-11-17 19:58 ` Mike Waychison
2004-11-17 18:53 ` [PATCH] " Al Viro
2004-11-17 17:56 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-17 18:11 ` Greg KH
2004-11-17 18:17 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-17 18:20 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-17 17:52 ` Greg KH
2004-11-17 15:36 ` Alan Cox
2004-11-17 21:37 ` Bryan Henderson
2004-11-17 19:00 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-17 19:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-17 20:44 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-18 8:17 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-18 14:46 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-21 7:42 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-21 7:50 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-21 9:50 ` Jan Hudec
2004-11-21 10:31 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-21 10:39 ` Jan Hudec
2004-11-21 11:29 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-21 11:53 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2004-11-21 12:01 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-21 18:13 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-22 16:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-18 17:00 ` Bryan Henderson [this message]
2004-11-18 17:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-18 18:49 ` Bryan Henderson
2004-11-18 19:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-19 7:01 ` Jan Engelhardt
2004-11-20 12:00 ` Jan Hudec
2004-11-18 17:12 ` Bryan Henderson
2004-11-18 17:28 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-18 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-18 17:29 ` Alan Cox
2004-11-18 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-18 19:28 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-19 9:46 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-18 20:57 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-24 6:20 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-11-24 12:15 ` Avi Kivity
2004-11-24 13:05 ` Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <200411242001.59504.oliver@neukum.org>
2004-11-24 19:20 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-25 6:26 ` Jan Hudec
2004-11-25 7:29 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-25 7:47 ` Jan Hudec
2004-11-25 9:15 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-25 9:54 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-30 18:44 ` Avi Kivity
2004-11-30 19:16 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-30 19:55 ` Avi Kivity
2004-11-30 21:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-30 21:37 ` Avi Kivity
2004-11-30 21:58 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-30 22:57 ` Avi Kivity
2004-11-30 23:19 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-12-15 17:55 ` Avi Kivity
2004-12-15 21:49 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-12-03 22:07 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-12-15 17:45 ` Avi Kivity
2004-12-01 7:16 ` Jan Hudec
2004-12-01 13:35 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-30 21:54 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-18 18:21 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-18 18:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-18 18:56 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-18 19:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-18 19:33 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-18 19:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-18 20:05 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-18 20:13 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-18 21:06 ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-18 21:33 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-19 11:27 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-27 17:07 ` Rik van Riel
2004-11-27 17:13 ` Pavel Machek
2004-12-03 22:07 ` Daniel Phillips
2004-11-18 20:16 ` Elladan
2004-11-18 18:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-11-18 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-18 19:12 ` Bryan Henderson
2004-11-18 19:51 ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-11-18 22:00 ` Jan Hudec
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