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From: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>
To: Nitesh Narayan Lal <nitesh@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: rkrcmar@redhat.com, x86@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] kvm: Report unused guest pages to host
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2019 08:56:00 -0800
Message-ID: <d28e5bc95cfc18ca8c97e28459692fdd967d52d3.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e0bf61d2-c315-ae4f-6ddb-93b7882fd13f@redhat.com>

On Thu, 2019-02-07 at 09:48 -0500, Nitesh Narayan Lal wrote:
> On 2/4/19 1:15 PM, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> > This patch set provides a mechanism by which guests can notify the host of
> > pages that are not currently in use. Using this data a KVM host can more
> > easily balance memory workloads between guests and improve overall system
> > performance by avoiding unnecessary writing of unused pages to swap.
> > 
> > In order to support this I have added a new hypercall to provided unused
> > page hints and made use of mechanisms currently used by PowerPC and s390
> > architectures to provide those hints. To reduce the overhead of this call
> > I am only using it per huge page instead of of doing a notification per 4K
> > page. By doing this we can avoid the expense of fragmenting higher order
> > pages, and reduce overall cost for the hypercall as it will only be
> > performed once per huge page.
> > 
> > Because we are limiting this to huge pages it was necessary to add a
> > secondary location where we make the call as the buddy allocator can merge
> > smaller pages into a higher order huge page.
> > 
> > This approach is not usable in all cases. Specifically, when KVM direct
> > device assignment is used, the memory for a guest is permanently assigned
> > to physical pages in order to support DMA from the assigned device. In
> > this case we cannot give the pages back, so the hypercall is disabled by
> > the host.
> > 
> > Another situation that can lead to issues is if the page were accessed
> > immediately after free. For example, if page poisoning is enabled the
> > guest will populate the page *after* freeing it. In this case it does not
> > make sense to provide a hint about the page being freed so we do not
> > perform the hypercalls from the guest if this functionality is enabled.
> 
> Hi Alexander,
> 
> Did you get a chance to look at my v8 posting of Guest Free Page Hinting
> [1]?
> Considering both the solutions are trying to solve the same problem. It
> will be great if we can collaborate and come up with a unified solution.
> 
> [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/2/4/993

I haven't had a chance to review these yet.

I'll try to take a look later today and provide review notes based on
what I find.

Thanks.

- Alex


  reply index

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-04 18:15 Alexander Duyck
2019-02-04 18:15 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] madvise: Expose ability to set dontneed from kernel Alexander Duyck
2019-02-04 18:15 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] kvm: Add host side support for free memory hints Alexander Duyck
2019-02-10  0:44   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 17:34     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-11 17:36       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 17:41     ` Dave Hansen
2019-02-11 17:48       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 18:30         ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-11 19:24           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-04 18:15 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] kvm: Add guest " Alexander Duyck
2019-02-04 19:44   ` Dave Hansen
2019-02-04 20:42     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-04 23:00   ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-04 23:37     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-05  0:03       ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-05  0:16         ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-05  1:46           ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-05 18:09             ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-07 18:21   ` Luiz Capitulino
2019-02-07 18:44     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-07 20:02       ` Luiz Capitulino
2019-02-08 21:05       ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-02-08 21:31         ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-10  0:49   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 16:31     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-11 17:36       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 18:10         ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-11 19:54           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 21:00             ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-11 22:52               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                 ` <94462313ccd927d25675f69de459456cf066c1a2.camel@linux.intel.com>
2019-02-12  0:34                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 17:48     ` Dave Hansen
2019-02-11 17:58       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 18:19         ` Dave Hansen
2019-02-11 19:56           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-04 18:15 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] mm: Add merge page notifier Alexander Duyck
2019-02-04 19:40   ` Dave Hansen
2019-02-04 19:51     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-10  0:57   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 13:30     ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-02-11 14:17       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 16:24         ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-02-11 17:41           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-11 18:09             ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-02-11  6:40   ` Aaron Lu
2019-02-11 15:58     ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-12  2:09       ` Aaron Lu
2019-02-12 17:20         ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-04 18:19 ` [RFC PATCH QEMU] i386/kvm: Enable paravirtual unused page hint mechanism Alexander Duyck
2019-02-05 17:25 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] kvm: Report unused guest pages to host Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-02-05 18:43   ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-07 14:48 ` Nitesh Narayan Lal
2019-02-07 16:56   ` Alexander Duyck [this message]
2019-02-10  0:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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