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From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>,
	Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	Yu Zhang <yu.c.zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>,
	Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
	"David Matlack" <dmatlack@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Explicitly disallow private accesses to emulated MMIO
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 12:20:10 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <db22392e-fb88-44f6-8592-7429c606cf10@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zej1sBTPLXIhfemS@google.com>



On 7/03/2024 12:01 pm, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 07, 2024, Kai Huang wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 7/03/2024 11:43 am, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 07, 2024, Kai Huang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 28/02/2024 3:41 pm, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>>>> Explicitly detect and disallow private accesses to emulated MMIO in
>>>>> kvm_handle_noslot_fault() instead of relying on kvm_faultin_pfn_private()
>>>>> to perform the check.  This will allow the page fault path to go straight
>>>>> to kvm_handle_noslot_fault() without bouncing through __kvm_faultin_pfn().
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>     arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c | 5 +++++
>>>>>     1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
>>>>> index 5c8caab64ba2..ebdb3fcce3dc 100644
>>>>> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
>>>>> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
>>>>> @@ -3314,6 +3314,11 @@ static int kvm_handle_noslot_fault(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu,
>>>>>     {
>>>>>     	gva_t gva = fault->is_tdp ? 0 : fault->addr;
>>>>> +	if (fault->is_private) {
>>>>> +		kvm_mmu_prepare_memory_fault_exit(vcpu, fault);
>>>>> +		return -EFAULT;
>>>>> +	}
>>>>> +
>>>>
>>>> As mentioned in another reply in this series, unless I am mistaken, for TDX
>>>> guest the _first_ MMIO access would still cause EPT violation with MMIO GFN
>>>> being private.
>>>>
>>>> Returning to userspace cannot really help here because the MMIO mapping is
>>>> inside the guest.
>>>
>>> That's a guest bug.  The guest *knows* it's a TDX VM, it *has* to know.  Accessing
>>> emulated MMIO and thus taking a #VE before enabling paging is nonsensical.  Either
>>> enable paging and setup MMIO regions as shared, or go straight to TDCALL.
>>
>> +Kirill,
>>
>> I kinda forgot the detail, but what I am afraid is there might be bunch of
>> existing TDX guests (since TDX guest code is upstream-ed) using unmodified
>> drivers, which doesn't map MMIO regions as shared I suppose.
>>
>> Kirill,
>>
>> Could you clarify whether TDX guest code maps MMIO regions as shared since
>> beginning?
> 
> Y'all get the same answer we gave the SNP folks: KVM does not yet support TDX,
> so as far is KVM is concerned, there is no existing functionality to support.
> 
> s/firmware/Linux if this is a Linux kernel problem.
> 
>    On Thu, Feb 08, 2024, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>    > On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 6:27 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
>    > > No.  KVM does not yet support SNP, so as far as KVM's ABI goes, there are no
>    > > existing guests.  Yes, I realize that I am burying my head in the sand to some
>    > > extent, but it is simply not sustainable for KVM to keep trying to pick up the
>    > > pieces of poorly defined hardware specs and broken guest firmware.
>    >
>    > 101% agreed. There are cases in which we have to and should bend
>    > together backwards for guests (e.g. older Linux kernels), but not for
>    > code that---according to current practices---is chosen by the host
>    > admin.
>    >
>    > (I am of the opinion that "bring your own firmware" is the only sane
>    > way to handle attestation/measurement, but that's not how things are
>    > done currently).

Fair enough, and good to know. :-)

(Still better to hear from Kirill, though.)

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-06 23:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-28  2:41 [PATCH 00/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Page fault and MMIO cleanups Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 01/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Exit to userspace with -EFAULT if private fault hits emulation Sean Christopherson
2024-03-01  8:48   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-03-07 12:52   ` Gupta, Pankaj
2024-03-12  2:59     ` Binbin Wu
2024-04-04 16:38       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-08  4:22   ` Yan Zhao
2024-04-04 16:45     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 02/16] KVM: x86: Remove separate "bit" defines for page fault error code masks Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 12:44   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-29 18:40     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 20:56       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-29 13:43   ` Dongli Zhang
2024-02-29 15:25     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 03/16] KVM: x86: Define more SEV+ page fault error bits/flags for #NPF Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  4:43   ` Dongli Zhang
2024-02-28 16:16     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 04/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Pass full 64-bit error code when handling page faults Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  7:30   ` Dongli Zhang
2024-02-28 16:22     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 13:32       ` Dongli Zhang
2024-03-05  3:55   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 05/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Use synthetic page fault error code to indicate private faults Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 11:16   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-29 15:17     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-06  9:43   ` Xu Yilun
2024-03-06 14:45     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07  9:05       ` Xu Yilun
2024-03-07 14:36         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-12  5:34   ` Binbin Wu
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 06/16] KVM: x86/mmu: WARN if upper 32 bits of legacy #PF error code are non-zero Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 22:11   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-29 23:07     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-12  5:44       ` Binbin Wu
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 07/16] KVM: x86: Move synthetic PFERR_* sanity checks to SVM's #NPF handler Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 22:19   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-29 22:52     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 23:14       ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-12  9:44   ` Binbin Wu
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 08/16] KVM: x86/mmu: WARN and skip MMIO cache on private, reserved page faults Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 22:26   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-29 23:06     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-29 23:21       ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-04 15:51         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-05 21:32           ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-06  0:25             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 09/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Move private vs. shared check above slot validity checks Sean Christopherson
2024-03-05 23:06   ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-06  0:38     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-06  1:22       ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-06  2:02         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-06 22:06           ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-06 23:49             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07  0:28               ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-08  4:54   ` Xu Yilun
2024-03-08 23:28     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-11  4:43       ` Xu Yilun
2024-03-12  0:08         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 10/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Don't force emulation of L2 accesses to non-APIC internal slots Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07  0:03   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 11/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Explicitly disallow private accesses to emulated MMIO Sean Christopherson
2024-03-06 22:35   ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-06 22:43     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-06 22:49       ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-06 23:01         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-06 23:20           ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2024-03-07 17:10         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2024-03-08  0:09           ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 12/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Move slot checks from __kvm_faultin_pfn() to kvm_faultin_pfn() Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07  0:11   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 13/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Handle no-slot faults at the beginning of kvm_faultin_pfn() Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07  0:48   ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-07  0:53     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 14/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Set kvm_page_fault.hva to KVM_HVA_ERR_BAD for "no slot" faults Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07  0:50   ` Huang, Kai
2024-03-07  1:01     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 15/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Initialize kvm_page_fault's pfn and hva to error values Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07  0:46   ` Huang, Kai
2024-02-28  2:41 ` [PATCH 16/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Sanity check that __kvm_faultin_pfn() doesn't create noslot pfns Sean Christopherson
2024-03-07  0:46   ` Huang, Kai
2024-04-17 12:48 ` [PATCH 00/16] KVM: x86/mmu: Page fault and MMIO cleanups Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-18 15:40   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-19  6:47   ` Xiaoyao Li

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