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From: Cornelia Huck <conny@cornelia-huck.de>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: VW ELF loader
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 09:54:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200204095403.04d9dd29.conny@cornelia-huck.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d13eea1d-7942-47e0-6189-a66ce9639db4@redhat.com>

On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 07:16:46 +0100
Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 04/02/2020 00.26, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Il mar 4 feb 2020, 00:20 Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru
> > <mailto:aik@ozlabs.ru>> ha scritto:
> > 
> >     Speaking seriously, what would I put into the guest?
> > 
> > Only things that would be considered drivers. Ignore the partitions
> > issue for now so that you can just pass the device tree services to QEMU
> > with hypercalls.
> > 
> >     Netboot's dhcp/tftp/ip/ipv6 client? It is going to be another SLOF,
> >     smaller but adhoc with only a couple of people knowing it.
> > 
> > 
> > You can generalize and reuse the s390 code. All you have to write is the
> > PCI scan and virtio-pci setup.  
> 
> Well, for netbooting, the s390-ccw bios uses the libnet code from SLOF,
> so re-using this for a slim netboot client on ppc64 would certainly be
> feasible (especially since there are also already virtio drivers in SLOF
> that are written in C), but I think it is not very future proof. The
> libnet from SLOF only supports UDP, and no TCP. So for advanced boot
> scenarios like booting from HTTP or even HTTPS, you need something else
> (i.e. maybe grub is the better option, indeed).

That makes me wonder what that means for s390: We're inheriting
libnet's limitations, but we don't have grub -- do we need to come up
with something different? Or improve libnet?


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-04 13:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-01 13:39 VW ELF loader Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-01 19:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-02 11:51   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-02 17:38     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-03  1:31       ` David Gibson
2020-02-03  1:28   ` David Gibson
2020-02-03  9:12     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-03  9:50       ` David Gibson
2020-02-03 10:58       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-03 15:08         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-03 22:36           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-03 22:56             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-03 23:19               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-03 23:26                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-04  6:16                   ` Thomas Huth
2020-02-04  8:54                     ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2020-02-04  9:20                       ` Restrictions of libnet (was: Re: VW ELF loader) Thomas Huth
2020-02-04  9:32                         ` Thomas Huth
2020-02-04  9:33                         ` Michal Suchánek
2020-02-05  5:30                         ` David Gibson
2020-02-05  6:24                           ` Thomas Huth
2020-02-10  7:55                             ` David Gibson
2020-02-10  9:39                               ` Michal Suchánek
2020-02-13  3:16                                 ` David Gibson
2020-02-04 23:18                   ` VW ELF loader Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-05  6:06                   ` David Gibson
2020-02-05  9:28                     ` Cornelia Huck
2020-02-06  4:47                       ` David Gibson
2020-02-06  8:27                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-06 23:17                       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-06 23:45                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-10  7:30                           ` David Gibson
2020-02-10 10:37                             ` Peter Maydell
2020-02-10 11:25                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-14  3:23                               ` David Gibson
2020-02-10  7:28                       ` David Gibson
2020-02-10 11:26                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-14  4:02                           ` David Gibson
2020-02-05  5:58           ` David Gibson
2020-02-06  8:29             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-06 23:23               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-06 23:46                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-10  0:31                   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-13  1:43                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-13 10:17                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-14  0:01                         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-14  2:30                           ` David Gibson
2020-02-04  9:40   ` Christian Borntraeger

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