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From: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Cornelia Huck <conny@cornelia-huck.de>,
	Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: VW ELF loader
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 11:01:26 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <662013b2-6452-81c1-30c6-d9f0184f9eb0@ozlabs.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2dea0786-5e4b-bda0-5ca8-fdcb3a4f3e50@redhat.com>



On 13/02/2020 21:17, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 13/02/20 02:43, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
>>
>> Ok. So, I have made a small firmware which does OF CI, loads GRUB and
>> instantiates RTAS:
>> https://github.com/aik/of1275
>> Quite raw but gives the idea.
>>
>> It does not contain drivers and still relies on QEMU to hook an OF path
>> to a backend. Is this a showstopper and without drivers it is no go? Thanks,
> 
> Yes, it's really the drivers.  Something like netboot wouldn't work for
> example.
> 
> I don't have a problem with relying on QEMU for opening and closing OF
> paths, but I really believe that read/write on ihandles should be done
> within the firmware and not QEMU.

Moving read/write to the firmware is not a problem but there is a little
mix up here :)

An ihandle is open from a path and nothing there suggests drivers, it is
up to the ihandle's "read" method what happens next.

If we do PCI drivers in the firmware, then the entire ihandle (==
"opened instance of a phandle") business goes to the firmware and we are
slowly bringing the existing mess back again.


-- 
Alexey


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-14  0:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-01 13:39 VW ELF loader Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-01 19:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-02 11:51   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-02 17:38     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-03  1:31       ` David Gibson
2020-02-03  1:28   ` David Gibson
2020-02-03  9:12     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-03  9:50       ` David Gibson
2020-02-03 10:58       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-03 15:08         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-03 22:36           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-03 22:56             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-03 23:19               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-03 23:26                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-04  6:16                   ` Thomas Huth
2020-02-04  8:54                     ` Cornelia Huck
2020-02-04  9:20                       ` Restrictions of libnet (was: Re: VW ELF loader) Thomas Huth
2020-02-04  9:32                         ` Thomas Huth
2020-02-04  9:33                         ` Michal Suchánek
2020-02-05  5:30                         ` David Gibson
2020-02-05  6:24                           ` Thomas Huth
2020-02-10  7:55                             ` David Gibson
2020-02-10  9:39                               ` Michal Suchánek
2020-02-13  3:16                                 ` David Gibson
2020-02-04 23:18                   ` VW ELF loader Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-05  6:06                   ` David Gibson
2020-02-05  9:28                     ` Cornelia Huck
2020-02-06  4:47                       ` David Gibson
2020-02-06  8:27                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-06 23:17                       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-06 23:45                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-10  7:30                           ` David Gibson
2020-02-10 10:37                             ` Peter Maydell
2020-02-10 11:25                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-14  3:23                               ` David Gibson
2020-02-10  7:28                       ` David Gibson
2020-02-10 11:26                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-14  4:02                           ` David Gibson
2020-02-05  5:58           ` David Gibson
2020-02-06  8:29             ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-06 23:23               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-06 23:46                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-10  0:31                   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-13  1:43                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2020-02-13 10:17                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-02-14  0:01                         ` Alexey Kardashevskiy [this message]
2020-02-14  2:30                           ` David Gibson
2020-02-04  9:40   ` Christian Borntraeger

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