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From: Bertrand Marquis <Bertrand.Marquis@arm.com>
To: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: Michal Orzel <Michal.Orzel@arm.com>,
	Rahul Singh <Rahul.Singh@arm.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Andre Przywara <Andre.Przywara@arm.com>,
	Christian Lindig <christian.lindig@citrix.com>,
	David Scott <dave@recoil.org>, Ian Jackson <iwj@xenproject.org>,
	Wei Liu <wl@xen.org>, Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>, Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Volodymyr Babchuk <Volodymyr_Babchuk@epam.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 07/11] xen/domctl: Introduce XEN_DOMCTL_CDF_vpci flag
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 09:36:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8F9D6B9C-58CB-4000-995A-95517EE72A3B@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YWaZKX44IOfIBtX6@MacBook-Air-de-Roger.local>

Hi Roger,

> On 13 Oct 2021, at 09:30, Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@citrix.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 12:38:35PM +0200, Michal Orzel wrote:
>> Hi Roger,
>> 
>> On 11.10.2021 11:27, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 06:40:33PM +0100, Rahul Singh wrote:
>>>> Introduce XEN_DOMCTL_CDF_vpci flag to enable VPCI support in XEN.
>>>> Reject the use of this new flag for x86 as VPCI is not supported for
>>>> DOMU guests for x86.
>>> 
>>> I don't like this approach, XEN_DOMCTL_CDF_vpci should be set for x86
>>> PVH dom0, like we do for any other CDF flags when Xen builds dom0.
>>> 
>>> Things like PVH vs PV get translated into CDF flags by create_dom0,
>>> and processed normally by the sanitise_domain_config logic, vPCI
>>> should be handled that way.
>>> 
>>> Do you think you could see about fixing this?
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Roger.
>>> 
>> 
>> I have one question about this fix.
>> If I set XEN_DOMCTL_CDF_vpci for dom0 pvh in create_dom0, then in
>> sanitise_domain_config or arch_sanitise_domain_config I have no
>> knowledge on whether I am dom0 or not. I can check if I'm PVH but not if dom0.
>> This would be needed to add a warning if this flag is set but we are not dom0 pvh.
>> 
>> Any ideas?
> 
> I've just realized this is more wrong that I thought. vPCI is
> signaled on x86 in xen_arch_domainconfig.emulation_flags, so
> introducing a top level option for it without removing the arch
> specific one is wrong, as then on x86 we have a duplicated option.
> 
> Then I'm also not sure whether we want to move it from
> emulation_flags, it seems like the more natural place for it to live
> on x86.
> 
> If we really want to make vPCI a CDF option we must deal with the
> removal of XEN_X86_EMU_VPCI, or else you could introduce an arch
> specific flag for vPCI on Arm.

First issue that we have here is that there is no emulation_flags right now on arm.

So I think there are 2 solutions:

- introduce PHYSCAP. The problem here is that it is not a physical capacity and
I think that will hit us in the future for example if we want to use vpci for VIRTIO
even if there is not physical PCI on the platform.

- introduce an emulation flag on arm. The problem here is that there is no emulation
flag right now on arm so adding this feature will require a change of interface in
arch-arm.h and in xen domctl interface. But if we introduce one on Arm, it would allow
the tools to check if CDF_vpci can be set or not which would solve current issues.

I think the second solution is the right one but it cannot be done so near from the
feature freeze.

The CDF flag as introduced right now is not creating any issue and will be used once
the emulation flag will be introduce. We will be able at this stage to set this properly
also on x86 (for dom0 pvh).
Moreover keeping it will allow to continue to merge the remaining part of the PCI
passthrough which are otherwise not possible to be done as they are dependent on this flag.

Can we agree on keep the DOMCTL_CDF_vpci flag and introduce the emulation
flag on Arm after 4.16 release ?

Cheers
Bertrand


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-13  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 190+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-06 17:40 [PATCH v5 00/11] PCI devices passthrough on Arm Rahul Singh
2021-10-06 17:40 ` [PATCH v5 01/11] xen/arm: xc_domain_ioport_permission(..) not supported on ARM Rahul Singh
2021-10-11 11:47   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-11 12:11     ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-11 13:20       ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-11 13:40         ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-11 13:57           ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-11 14:16             ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-11 16:32               ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-11 17:11                 ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-12  8:29                   ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-12  8:41                     ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-12  9:32                       ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-12  9:38                         ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-10-12 10:01                           ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-12 10:06                             ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-10-12 10:20                               ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-12 10:41                                 ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-12 10:44                                   ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-12 14:53                                   ` Ian Jackson
2021-10-12 16:15                                     ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-12 16:29                                       ` Ian Jackson
2021-10-12 20:42                                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-13  8:07                                           ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-13 11:52                                             ` Ian Jackson
2021-10-13  8:02                                       ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-13 12:02                                         ` Ian Jackson
2021-10-12  9:40                         ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-12 10:03                           ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-11 14:16           ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-10-06 17:40 ` [PATCH v5 02/11] xen/arm: Add PHYSDEVOP_pci_device_(*add/remove) support for ARM Rahul Singh
2021-10-07  0:05   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-07 12:58     ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-21  9:28   ` xen/arm: Missing appropriate locking for the IOMMU (WAS Re: [PATCH v5 02/11] xen/arm: Add PHYSDEVOP_pci_device_(*add/remove) support for ARM) Julien Grall
2021-10-21 13:15     ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-21 13:47       ` Julien Grall
2021-10-21 13:52         ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-06 17:40 ` [PATCH v5 03/11] xen/arm: Add cmdline boot option "pci-passthrough = <boolean>" Rahul Singh
2021-10-07  8:27   ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-07  8:32     ` Rahul Singh
2021-10-07 12:59   ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-06 17:40 ` [PATCH v5 04/11] xen/arm: PCI host bridge discovery within XEN on ARM Rahul Singh
2021-10-06 17:40 ` [PATCH v5 05/11] xen/arm: Add support for Xilinx ZynqMP PCI host controller Rahul Singh
2021-10-06 17:40 ` [PATCH v5 06/11] xen/arm: Implement pci access functions Rahul Singh
2021-10-06 17:40 ` [PATCH v5 07/11] xen/domctl: Introduce XEN_DOMCTL_CDF_vpci flag Rahul Singh
2021-10-07 13:08   ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-08 18:06   ` Andrew Cooper
2021-10-08 21:12     ` Julien Grall
2021-10-08 21:46       ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-11  9:24         ` Julien Grall
2021-10-11 11:29         ` Michal Orzel
2021-10-11 11:35           ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-11 13:17             ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-11  9:48     ` Ian Jackson
2021-10-11  9:27   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-11 12:06     ` Michal Orzel
2021-10-12 10:38     ` Michal Orzel
2021-10-13  8:30       ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-13  9:36         ` Bertrand Marquis [this message]
2021-10-13 10:56           ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-13 12:11             ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-13 12:57               ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-13 20:41                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-14  6:23                   ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-14  7:53                     ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-13 14:28               ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-13 20:53             ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-13 23:21               ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-12 21:48     ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-13  6:18       ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-13  7:11         ` Michal Orzel
2021-10-06 17:40 ` [PATCH v5 08/11] xen/arm: Enable the existing x86 virtual PCI support for ARM Rahul Singh
2021-10-07 13:43   ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-11 12:41     ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-11 13:09       ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-11 13:34         ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-11 14:10           ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-11 14:52             ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-11 18:18             ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-12  8:04               ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-12 21:37                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-13  6:10                   ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-13 10:02                     ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-13 12:21                       ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-12 15:04       ` Julien Grall
2021-10-12 16:12         ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-12 16:20           ` Julien Grall
2021-10-12 17:50             ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-11 10:51   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-11 16:12     ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-11 16:20       ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-10-11 16:43         ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-11 17:15           ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-11 18:30             ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-10-11 19:27               ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-12  5:34                 ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-10-12  7:44                 ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-12 14:32   ` Julien Grall
2021-10-12 14:34     ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-13  8:45   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-13  9:48     ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-13 10:33       ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-13 13:00     ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-13 14:51       ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-10-13 15:15         ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-13 19:27           ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-14  6:33             ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-14  7:53               ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-14  9:03               ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-14  9:24                 ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-06 17:40 ` [PATCH v5 09/11] xen/arm: Transitional change to build HAS_VPCI on ARM Rahul Singh
2021-10-11 11:43   ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-11 12:15     ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-12  1:32       ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-06 17:40 ` [PATCH v5 10/11] arm/libxl: Emulated PCI device tree node in libxl Rahul Singh
2021-10-06 18:01   ` Julien Grall
2021-10-07  0:26     ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-07 15:31       ` Rahul Singh
2021-10-07 10:53     ` Ian Jackson
2021-10-07 15:29       ` Rahul Singh
2021-10-07 16:11         ` Ian Jackson
2021-10-11 13:46           ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-14 17:16           ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-14 14:49             ` [PATCH v6 0/3] PCI devices passthrough on Arm Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-14 14:49               ` [PATCH v6 1/3] xen/vpci: Move ecam access functions to common code Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-14 16:06                 ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-14 17:09                   ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-15  6:29                     ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-15  7:37                       ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-15  8:13                         ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-15  8:20                           ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-15  8:24                             ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-15  9:49                           ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-14 23:47                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-15  7:44                 ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-15  7:53                   ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-15  9:53                     ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-15 10:12                       ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-15 10:14                       ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-14 14:49               ` [PATCH v6 2/3] xen/arm: Enable the existing x86 virtual PCI support for ARM Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-14 23:49                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-15  6:40                   ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-15  9:59                     ` Ian Jackson
2021-10-15 10:10                   ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-15  8:00                 ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-15 10:09                   ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-15 10:14                     ` Ian Jackson
2021-10-15 10:18                       ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-15 11:35                         ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-15 12:13                           ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-15 12:18                             ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-15 12:28                               ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-15 13:00                                 ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-15 13:10                                   ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-15 10:38                     ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-15  8:32                 ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-15  8:42                   ` Michal Orzel
2021-10-15  9:52                   ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-15 10:13                     ` Luca Fancellu
2021-10-15 10:17                       ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-15 10:19                     ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-15 10:31                       ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-15 10:24                     ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-15 10:33                       ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-15 10:41                         ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-15 10:48                           ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-15 10:51                             ` Jan Beulich
2021-10-15 11:08                               ` Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-15 13:47                             ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-15 14:00                               ` Luca Fancellu
2021-10-15 14:32                                 ` Roger Pau Monné
2021-10-14 14:49               ` [PATCH v6 3/3] arm/libxl: Emulated PCI device tree node in libxl Bertrand Marquis
2021-10-14 17:54                 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] arm/libxl: Emulated PCI device tree node in libxl [and 1 more messages] Ian Jackson
2021-10-14 23:50                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-15  7:28                   ` Julien Grall
2021-10-15  7:41                     ` Michal Orzel
2021-10-15  9:01                       ` Julien Grall
2021-10-15 10:02                     ` Ian Jackson
2021-10-15 10:58                       ` Michal Orzel
2021-10-15 11:04                         ` Michal Orzel
2021-10-15 11:46                         ` Ian Jackson
2021-10-15 11:53                           ` Michal Orzel
2021-10-15 12:10                             ` Julien Grall
2021-10-15 12:14                               ` Ian Jackson
2021-10-15 12:13                             ` Ian Jackson
2021-10-12 15:03   ` [PATCH v5 10/11] arm/libxl: Emulated PCI device tree node in libxl Ian Jackson
2021-10-06 17:40 ` [PATCH v5 11/11] xen/arm: Add linux,pci-domain property for hwdom if not available Rahul Singh
2021-10-13 20:54   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-07 19:54 ` [PATCH v5 00/11] PCI devices passthrough on Arm Stefano Stabellini
2021-10-07 21:29   ` Rahul Singh

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