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From: Yazen Ghannam <yazen.ghannam@amd.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: yazen.ghannam@amd.com, linux-edac@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tony.luck@intel.com,
	x86@kernel.org, Avadhut.Naik@amd.com, John.Allen@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 09/16] x86/mce: Unify AMD THR handler with MCA Polling
Date: Tue, 7 May 2024 12:25:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8b396843-4505-415e-b989-14bb37245877@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240504145253.GFZjZLxf3lzAHGaHhh@fat_crate.local>

On 5/4/24 10:52 AM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 10:36:57AM -0400, Yazen Ghannam wrote:
>> Related to this, I've been thinking that banks with thresholding enabled
>> should be removed from the list of polling banks. This is done on Intel but
>> not on AMD.
>>
>> I wanted to give it more thought, because I think folks have come to expect
>> polling and thresholding to be independent on AMD.
> 
> Yes, this whole thing sounds weird.
> 
> On the one hand, you have a special interrupt for errors which have
> reached a threshold *just* *so* you don't have to poll. Because polling
> is ok but getting a a special interrupt is better and such notification
> systems always want to have a special interrupt and not have to poll.
> 
> On the other hand, you're marrying the two which sounds weird. Why?
> 
> What is wrong with getting thresholding interrupts?
> 

Nothing. This patch is not disabling the interrupt. The goal is to get
rid of duplicate code and have a single function that checks the MCA
banks.

This would be similar to intel_threshold_interrupt().

> Why can't we simply stop the polling and do THR only if available? That
> would save a lot of energy.
> 
> So why can't we program the THR to raise an interrupt on a single error
> and disable polling completely?
> 
> Because that would be a lot better as the hardware would be doing the
> work for us.
> 
> In any case, I'm missing the strategy here so no cleanups without
> a clear goal first please.
>

We could do that. In fact, there's a request to use the threshold that
is pre-programmed in the hardware. And we could use some of the current
kernel parameters for overrides, if needed.

Thanks,
Yazen

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-07 18:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-04 15:13 [PATCH v2 00/16] MCA Updates Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-04 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] x86/mce: Define mce_setup() helpers for common and per-CPU fields Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-16 10:02   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-17 13:50     ` Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-22  8:13       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-04 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] x86/mce: Use mce_setup() helpers for apei_smca_report_x86_error() Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-04 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] x86/mce/amd: Use fixed bank number for quirks Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-04 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] x86/mce/amd: Look up bank type by IPID Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-23 17:06   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-23 19:16     ` Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-04 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] x86/mce/amd: Clean up SMCA configuration Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-23 19:06   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-23 19:32     ` Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-24  2:29       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-24 13:44         ` Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-04 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] x86/mce/amd: Prep DFR handler before enabling banks Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-24 18:34   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-25 13:31     ` Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-29 12:38       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-29 13:22         ` Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-04 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] x86/mce/amd: Simplify DFR handler setup Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-24 19:06   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-25 14:12     ` Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-29 12:59       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-29 13:56         ` Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-29 14:12           ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-29 14:25             ` Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-30 13:47               ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-29 18:34       ` Robert Richter
2024-04-30 18:06         ` Borislav Petkov
2024-05-02 16:02           ` Yazen Ghannam
2024-05-02 18:48             ` Robert Richter
2024-05-04 14:37               ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-04 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] x86/mce/amd: Clean up enable_deferred_error_interrupt() Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-29 13:12   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-29 14:18     ` Yazen Ghannam
2024-05-04 14:41       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-04 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] x86/mce: Unify AMD THR handler with MCA Polling Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-29 13:40   ` Borislav Petkov
2024-04-29 14:36     ` Yazen Ghannam
2024-05-04 14:52       ` Borislav Petkov
2024-05-07 16:25         ` Yazen Ghannam [this message]
2024-04-04 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] x86/mce: Unify AMD DFR " Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-04 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] x86/mce: Skip AMD threshold init if no threshold banks found Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-04 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] x86/mce/amd: Support SMCA Corrected Error Interrupt Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-04 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] x86/mce: Add wrapper for struct mce to export vendor specific info Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-04 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] x86/mce, EDAC/mce_amd: Add support for new MCA_SYND{1,2} registers Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-04 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] x86/mce/apei: Handle variable register array size Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-04 15:13 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] EDAC/mce_amd: Add support for FRU Text in MCA Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-05 16:06   ` Luck, Tony
2024-04-07 13:19     ` Yazen Ghannam
2024-04-08 19:47     ` Naik, Avadhut
2024-04-08 19:57       ` Luck, Tony

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