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From: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
To: Emil Renner Berthing <emil.renner.berthing@canonical.com>
Cc: Hal Feng <hal.feng@starfivetech.com>,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Ben Dooks <ben.dooks@sifive.com>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 12/19] clk: starfive: Add StarFive JH7110 always-on clock driver
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 18:11:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <032f9254-482a-4b97-8e7e-4afb1f78eb21@spud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJM55Z9YGjD+1haWcXEZNkHnWNRZckdBmTTykTt7QZV_LUohgQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 03:06:13PM +0100, Emil Renner Berthing wrote:
>  On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 10:44, Hal Feng <hal.feng@starfivetech.com> wrote:

> > The AON clock driver provides clocks for gmac0 which is used frequently.
> > So I think it would be more convenient if we set "default y" here.

> You're right that if we default y for the ethernet driver then the aon
> clock/reset should also default y. Personally I don't think we should
> default y for every ethernet driver that might be used on some
> supported risc-v platform, but I see now that
> arch/riscv/config/defconfig already contains CONFIG_MACB=y,
> CONFIG_E1000E=y, CONFIG_R8169=y and CONFIG_MICROSEMI_PHY=y, so maybe
> I'm wrong or just too late.

The defconfig really needs a good bit of cleanup (one of the many things
that I am telling myself I will do as part of kconfig.socs cleanup).

w.r.t defconfig Palmer said it pretty well earlier on IRC: "defconfig
should be useful for kernel devs, which means it should boot on the
common dev boards".

IMO, that means enough to boot an initramfs and poke the thing to see
that it is alive, so: ethernet & serial, and the clocks/resets/pinctrl
stuff required to get those going can all be set to y in defconfig.

In the driver Kconfig entries, to me, it's more or less the same.
I guess, answer the question "Will your customer's board get to the
point where it can load a module ithout building this into the kernel?".
If the answer to that question is yes, then don't make it default y.

That's my €0.02!

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From: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
To: Emil Renner Berthing <emil.renner.berthing@canonical.com>
Cc: Hal Feng <hal.feng@starfivetech.com>,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Ben Dooks <ben.dooks@sifive.com>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 12/19] clk: starfive: Add StarFive JH7110 always-on clock driver
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 18:11:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <032f9254-482a-4b97-8e7e-4afb1f78eb21@spud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJM55Z9YGjD+1haWcXEZNkHnWNRZckdBmTTykTt7QZV_LUohgQ@mail.gmail.com>


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On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 03:06:13PM +0100, Emil Renner Berthing wrote:
>  On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 10:44, Hal Feng <hal.feng@starfivetech.com> wrote:

> > The AON clock driver provides clocks for gmac0 which is used frequently.
> > So I think it would be more convenient if we set "default y" here.

> You're right that if we default y for the ethernet driver then the aon
> clock/reset should also default y. Personally I don't think we should
> default y for every ethernet driver that might be used on some
> supported risc-v platform, but I see now that
> arch/riscv/config/defconfig already contains CONFIG_MACB=y,
> CONFIG_E1000E=y, CONFIG_R8169=y and CONFIG_MICROSEMI_PHY=y, so maybe
> I'm wrong or just too late.

The defconfig really needs a good bit of cleanup (one of the many things
that I am telling myself I will do as part of kconfig.socs cleanup).

w.r.t defconfig Palmer said it pretty well earlier on IRC: "defconfig
should be useful for kernel devs, which means it should boot on the
common dev boards".

IMO, that means enough to boot an initramfs and poke the thing to see
that it is alive, so: ethernet & serial, and the clocks/resets/pinctrl
stuff required to get those going can all be set to y in defconfig.

In the driver Kconfig entries, to me, it's more or less the same.
I guess, answer the question "Will your customer's board get to the
point where it can load a module ithout building this into the kernel?".
If the answer to that question is yes, then don't make it default y.

That's my €0.02!

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-09 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-21  2:46 [PATCH v4 00/19] Basic clock, reset & device tree support for StarFive JH7110 RISC-V SoC Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46 ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 01/19] clk: starfive: Factor out common JH7100 and JH7110 code Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 02/19] clk: starfive: Rename clk-starfive-jh7100.h to clk-starfive-jh71x0.h Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 03/19] clk: starfive: Rename "jh7100" to "jh71x0" for the common code Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 04/19] reset: Create subdirectory for StarFive drivers Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 05/19] reset: starfive: Factor out common JH71X0 reset code Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21 17:10   ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-21 17:10     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 06/19] reset: starfive: Extract the " Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21 17:13   ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-21 17:13     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 07/19] reset: starfive: Rename "jh7100" to "jh71x0" for the common code Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21 17:17   ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-21 17:17     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 08/19] reset: starfive: jh71x0: Use 32bit I/O on 32bit registers Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 09/19] dt-bindings: clock: Add StarFive JH7110 system clock and reset generator Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21 17:23   ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-21 17:23     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-23  3:40     ` Hal Feng
2023-02-23  3:40       ` Hal Feng
2023-02-22  9:13   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-02-22  9:13     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-02-22 10:40     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-22 10:40       ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-23 10:22       ` Hal Feng
2023-02-23 10:22         ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 10/19] dt-bindings: clock: Add StarFive JH7110 always-on " Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21 17:26   ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-21 17:26     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-23  5:52     ` Hal Feng
2023-02-23  5:52       ` Hal Feng
2023-03-09 14:22   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-03-09 14:22     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-03-13  2:29     ` Hal Feng
2023-03-13  2:29       ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 11/19] clk: starfive: Add StarFive JH7110 system clock driver Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21 15:12   ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-21 15:12     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-23  6:17     ` Hal Feng
2023-02-23  6:17       ` Hal Feng
2023-02-26 16:07   ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-02-26 16:07     ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-02-28  2:30     ` Hal Feng
2023-02-28  2:30       ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 12/19] clk: starfive: Add StarFive JH7110 always-on " Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-26 17:34   ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-02-26 17:34     ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-02-28  2:42     ` Hal Feng
2023-02-28  2:42       ` Hal Feng
2023-03-09  9:43       ` Hal Feng
2023-03-09  9:43         ` Hal Feng
2023-03-09 14:06         ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-03-09 14:06           ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-03-09 18:11           ` Conor Dooley [this message]
2023-03-09 18:11             ` Conor Dooley
2023-03-09 18:19             ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-03-09 18:19               ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-03-09 19:32               ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-03-09 19:32                 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 13/19] reset: starfive: Add StarFive JH7110 reset driver Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21 15:33   ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-02-21 15:33     ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-02-21 16:34     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-21 16:34       ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-23  6:48       ` Hal Feng
2023-02-23  6:48         ` Hal Feng
2023-02-23  6:29     ` Hal Feng
2023-02-23  6:29       ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 14/19] dt-bindings: timer: Add StarFive JH7110 clint Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 15/19] dt-bindings: interrupt-controller: Add StarFive JH7110 plic Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 16/19] dt-bindings: riscv: Add SiFive S7 compatible Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21 11:38   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-02-21 11:38     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-02-21 15:10   ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-21 15:10     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 17/19] riscv: dts: starfive: Add initial StarFive JH7110 device tree Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21 17:03   ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-21 17:03     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-23  7:16     ` Hal Feng
2023-02-23  7:16       ` Hal Feng
2023-02-27 18:10       ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-27 18:10         ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 18/19] riscv: dts: starfive: Add StarFive JH7110 pin function definitions Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46 ` [PATCH v4 19/19] riscv: dts: starfive: Add StarFive JH7110 VisionFive 2 board device tree Hal Feng
2023-02-21  2:46   ` Hal Feng
2023-02-21 15:03   ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-02-21 15:03     ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-02-23  8:50     ` Hal Feng
2023-02-23  8:50       ` Hal Feng
2023-02-27 18:12       ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-27 18:12         ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-27 20:00         ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-27 20:00           ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-28  2:58           ` Hal Feng
2023-02-28  2:58             ` Hal Feng
2023-02-22 15:00 ` [PATCH v4 00/19] Basic clock, reset & device tree support for StarFive JH7110 RISC-V SoC patchwork-bot+linux-riscv
2023-02-22 15:00   ` patchwork-bot+linux-riscv
2023-02-22 15:35   ` Conor Dooley
2023-03-03 19:08 ` Tommaso Merciai
2023-03-03 19:08   ` Tommaso Merciai
2023-03-06  3:29   ` Hal Feng
2023-03-06  3:29     ` Hal Feng
2023-03-06 10:22     ` Tommaso Merciai
2023-03-06 10:22       ` Tommaso Merciai
2023-03-07  8:36 ` Hal Feng
2023-03-07  8:36   ` Hal Feng
2023-03-07  8:51   ` Conor Dooley
2023-03-07  8:51     ` Conor Dooley
2023-03-07 10:08     ` Hal Feng
2023-03-07 10:08       ` Hal Feng
2023-03-08 12:28       ` Tommaso Merciai
2023-03-08 12:28         ` Tommaso Merciai
2023-03-08 13:36         ` Conor Dooley
2023-03-08 13:36           ` Conor Dooley
2023-03-09 16:49           ` Tommaso Merciai
2023-03-09 16:49             ` Tommaso Merciai
2023-03-09 17:52             ` Conor Dooley
2023-03-09 17:52               ` Conor Dooley
2023-03-09 18:58               ` Tommaso Merciai
2023-03-09 18:58                 ` Tommaso Merciai
2023-03-09 19:03                 ` Conor Dooley
2023-03-09 19:03                   ` Conor Dooley
2023-03-10  7:48                   ` Tommaso Merciai
2023-03-10  7:48                     ` Tommaso Merciai

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