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From: Bob Copeland <me@bobcopeland.com>
To: Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com>
Cc: Jasmine Strong <jas@eero.com>, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ath10k@lists.infradead.org" <ath10k@lists.infradead.org>,
	"codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" <codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [RFCv2 0/3] mac80211: implement fq codel
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 07:12:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160317111248.GC1238@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+BoTQnFN6VANn=5EUvHc0Dbfh4Zv0HraOto2ySN3_HdOpD7Sg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 09:55:03AM +0100, Michal Kazior wrote:
> If you consider Wi-Fi is half-duplex and latency in the entire stack
> (for processing ICMP and UDP_RR) is greater than 11e contention window
> timings you can get your BE flow responses with extra delay (since
> other queues might have responses ready quicker).

Got it, that makes sense.  Thanks for the explanation!

-- 
Bob Copeland %% http://bobcopeland.com/

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From: Bob Copeland <me@bobcopeland.com>
To: Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com>
Cc: Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
	"ath10k@lists.infradead.org" <ath10k@lists.infradead.org>,
	Jasmine Strong <jas@eero.com>,
	"codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" <codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [RFCv2 0/3] mac80211: implement fq codel
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 07:12:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160317111248.GC1238@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+BoTQnFN6VANn=5EUvHc0Dbfh4Zv0HraOto2ySN3_HdOpD7Sg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 09:55:03AM +0100, Michal Kazior wrote:
> If you consider Wi-Fi is half-duplex and latency in the entire stack
> (for processing ICMP and UDP_RR) is greater than 11e contention window
> timings you can get your BE flow responses with extra delay (since
> other queues might have responses ready quicker).

Got it, that makes sense.  Thanks for the explanation!

-- 
Bob Copeland %% http://bobcopeland.com/

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Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-16 10:17 [RFCv2 0/3] mac80211: implement fq codel Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17 ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17 ` [RFCv2 1/3] mac80211: implement fq_codel for software queuing Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-22  1:35   ` [Make-wifi-fast] " David Lang
2016-03-22  1:35     ` David Lang
2016-03-22  1:35     ` David Lang
2016-03-22  6:51     ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-22  6:51       ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-22  6:51       ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17 ` [RFCv2 2/3] ath10k: report per-station tx/rate rates to mac80211 Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-24  7:19   ` Mohammed Shafi Shajakhan
2016-03-24  7:19     ` Mohammed Shafi Shajakhan
2016-03-24  7:19     ` Mohammed Shafi Shajakhan
2016-03-24  7:49     ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-24  7:49       ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-24  7:49       ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-24 12:23       ` Mohammed Shafi Shajakhan
2016-03-24 12:23         ` Mohammed Shafi Shajakhan
2016-03-24 12:31         ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-24 12:31           ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-24 12:31           ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17 ` [RFCv2 3/3] ath10k: use ieee80211_tx_schedule() Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:26 ` [RFCv2 0/3] mac80211: implement fq codel Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:26   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 15:37   ` Dave Taht
2016-03-16 15:37     ` Dave Taht
2016-03-16 15:37     ` Dave Taht
2016-03-16 18:36     ` Dave Taht
2016-03-16 18:36       ` Dave Taht
2016-03-16 18:36       ` Dave Taht
2016-03-16 18:55       ` Bob Copeland
2016-03-16 18:55         ` Bob Copeland
2016-03-16 18:55         ` Bob Copeland
2016-03-16 19:48         ` Jasmine Strong
2016-03-17  8:55           ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17  8:55             ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17  8:55             ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17 11:12             ` Bob Copeland [this message]
2016-03-17 11:12               ` Bob Copeland
2016-03-17 17:00             ` Dave Taht
2016-03-17 17:00               ` Dave Taht
2016-03-17 17:00               ` Dave Taht
2016-03-17 17:24               ` [Codel] " Rick Jones
2016-03-17 17:24                 ` Rick Jones
2016-03-17 17:24                 ` Rick Jones
2016-03-21 11:57               ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-21 11:57                 ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17  9:43       ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17  9:43         ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17  9:43         ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17  9:03     ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17  9:03       ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17  9:03       ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-25  9:27 ` [PATCH 0/2] mac80211: implement fq_codel Michal Kazior
2016-03-25  9:27   ` [PATCH 1/2] mac80211: implement fair queuing per txq Michal Kazior
2016-04-08  4:37     ` Avery Pennarun
2016-04-11  7:25       ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-25  9:27   ` [PATCH 2/2] mac80211: expose some txq/fq internals and knobs via debugfs Michal Kazior
2016-03-31 10:28   ` [PATCHv2 0/2] mac80211: implement fq_codel Michal Kazior
2016-03-31 10:28     ` [PATCHv2 1/2] mac80211: implement fair queuing per txq Michal Kazior
2016-04-05 13:57       ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-05 14:32         ` Dave Taht
2016-04-06  7:21           ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-06 17:39             ` Dave Taht
2016-04-07  8:53               ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-06  5:35         ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-06  6:03           ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Jonathan Morton
2016-04-06  7:16             ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-06 16:46               ` Jonathan Morton
2016-04-06  7:19           ` Johannes Berg
2016-03-31 10:28     ` [PATCHv2 2/2] mac80211: expose some txq/fq internals and knobs via debugfs Michal Kazior
2016-04-14 12:18     ` [PATCHv3 0/5] mac80211: implement fq_codel Michal Kazior
2016-04-14 12:18       ` [PATCHv3 1/5] mac80211: skip netdev queue control with software queuing Michal Kazior
2016-04-16 22:21         ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-18  5:39           ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-14 12:18       ` [PATCHv3 2/5] mac80211: implement fair queueing per txq Michal Kazior
2016-04-16 22:23         ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-16 22:25           ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-18  5:16             ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-18 12:31               ` [Codel] " Eric Dumazet
2016-04-18 13:36                 ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-19  9:10                   ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-14 12:18       ` [PATCHv3 3/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for fair queuing Michal Kazior
2016-04-14 12:18       ` [PATCHv3 4/5] mac80211: implement codel on fair queuing flows Michal Kazior
2016-04-16 22:29         ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-18  5:31           ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-18 12:38             ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-19  9:06               ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-19  9:31                 ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-19  9:57                   ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-14 12:18       ` [PATCHv3 5/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for codel Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 11:00       ` [PATCHv4 0/5] mac80211: implement fq_codel Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 11:00         ` [PATCHv4 1/5] mac80211: skip netdev queue control with software queuing Michal Kazior
2016-05-09 12:28           ` Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 11:00         ` [PATCHv4 2/5] mac80211: implement fair queueing per txq Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 11:00         ` [PATCHv4 3/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for fair queuing Michal Kazior
2016-06-09  9:48           ` Johannes Berg
2016-05-05 11:00         ` [PATCHv4 4/5] mac80211: implement codel on fair queuing flows Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 15:30           ` Dave Taht
2016-05-05 11:00         ` [PATCHv4 5/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for codel Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 15:21           ` Dave Taht
2016-05-06  5:27             ` Michal Kazior
2016-05-06  5:51               ` Dave Taht
2016-05-06  6:33                 ` Michal Kazior
2016-05-06  7:23                   ` Dave Taht
2016-05-19  8:37         ` [PATCHv5 0/5] mac80211: implement fq_codel Michal Kazior
2016-05-19  8:37           ` [PATCHv5 1/5] mac80211: skip netdev queue control with software queuing Michal Kazior
2016-05-19  8:37           ` [PATCHv5 2/5] mac80211: implement fair queueing per txq Michal Kazior
2016-05-19  8:37           ` [PATCHv5 3/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for fair queuing Michal Kazior
2016-05-19  8:37           ` [PATCHv5 4/5] mac80211: implement codel on fair queuing flows Michal Kazior
2016-05-19  8:37           ` [PATCHv5 5/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for codel Michal Kazior
2016-06-09  9:47             ` Johannes Berg
2016-05-31 12:12           ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv5 0/5] mac80211: implement fq_codel Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-05-31 12:31             ` Michal Kazior
2016-06-09  9:49           ` Johannes Berg
2016-03-21 17:10 [RFCv2 0/3] mac80211: implement fq codel Dave Taht
2016-03-21 17:10 ` Dave Taht
2016-03-21 17:10 ` Dave Taht
2016-03-22  8:05 ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-22  8:05   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-22  8:05   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-22  9:51   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-03-22  9:51     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-03-22  9:51     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-03-22 14:24   ` Dave Taht
2016-03-22 14:24     ` Dave Taht

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