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From: Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ath10k@lists.infradead.org" <ath10k@lists.infradead.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net,
	"codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" <codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [RFCv2 0/3] mac80211: implement fq codel
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 10:43:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+BoTQn5yLd3J87V_rXVpUgXMVYLv+0x9xkbnyxjcvamk9x0Tg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6tDdiYuginPbUY1DFJLiDxofHMFN6j2BvQPabPmBtuRw@mail.gmail.com>

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I've re-tested selected cases with wmm_enabled=0 set on the DUT AP.
I'm attaching results.

Naming:
 * "old-" is without mac/ath10k changes (referred to as kvalo-reverts
previously) and fq_codel on qdiscs,
 * "patched-" is all patches applied (both mac and ath),
 * "-be-bursts" is stock "bursts" flent test,
 * "-all-bursts" is modified "bursts" flent test to burst on all 3
tids simultaneously: tid0(BE), tid1(BK), tid5(VI).


Michał

On 16 March 2016 at 19:36, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> That is the sanest 802.11e queue behavior I have ever seen!  (at both
> 6 and 300mbit! in the ath10k patched mac test)
>
> It would be good to add a flow to this test that exercises the VI
> queue (CS5 diffserv marking?), and to repeat this test with wmm
> disabled for comparison.
>
>
> Dave Täht
> Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!
> https://www.gofundme.com/savewifi
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>> it is helpful to name the test files coherently in the flent tests, in
>> addition to using a directory structure and timestamp. It makes doing
>> comparison plots in data->add-other-open-data-files simpler. "-t
>> patched-mac-300mbps", for example.
>>
>> Also netperf from svn (maybe 2.7, don't remember) will restart udp_rr
>> after a packet loss in 250ms. Seeing a loss on UDP_RR and it stop for
>> a while is "ok".
>> Dave Täht
>> Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!
>> https://www.gofundme.com/savewifi
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:26 AM, Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com> wrote:
>>> On 16 March 2016 at 11:17, Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Most notable changes:
>>> [...]
>>>>  * ath10k proof-of-concept that uses the new tx
>>>>    scheduling (will post results in separate
>>>>    email)
>>>
>>> I'm attaching a bunch of tests I've done using flent. They are all
>>> "burst" tests with burst-ports=1 and burst-length=2. The testing
>>> topology is:
>>>
>>>                    AP ----> STA
>>>                    AP )) (( STA
>>>  [veth]--[br]--[wlan] )) (( [wlan]
>>>
>>> You can notice that in some tests plot data gets cut-off. There are 2
>>> problems I've identified:
>>>  - excess drops (not a problem with the patchset and can be seen when
>>> there's no codel-in-mac or scheduling isn't used)
>>>  - UDP_RR hangs (apparently QCA99X0 I have hangs for a few hundred ms
>>> sometimes at times and doesn't Rx frames causing UDP_RR to stop
>>> mid-way; confirmed with logs and sniffer; I haven't figured out *why*
>>> exactly, could be some hw/fw quirk)
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have questions or comments regarding my testing/results.
>>>
>>>
>>> Michał

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From: Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" <codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ath10k@lists.infradead.org" <ath10k@lists.infradead.org>,
	make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [RFCv2 0/3] mac80211: implement fq codel
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 10:43:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+BoTQn5yLd3J87V_rXVpUgXMVYLv+0x9xkbnyxjcvamk9x0Tg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6tDdiYuginPbUY1DFJLiDxofHMFN6j2BvQPabPmBtuRw@mail.gmail.com>

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I've re-tested selected cases with wmm_enabled=0 set on the DUT AP.
I'm attaching results.

Naming:
 * "old-" is without mac/ath10k changes (referred to as kvalo-reverts
previously) and fq_codel on qdiscs,
 * "patched-" is all patches applied (both mac and ath),
 * "-be-bursts" is stock "bursts" flent test,
 * "-all-bursts" is modified "bursts" flent test to burst on all 3
tids simultaneously: tid0(BE), tid1(BK), tid5(VI).


Michał

On 16 March 2016 at 19:36, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> That is the sanest 802.11e queue behavior I have ever seen!  (at both
> 6 and 300mbit! in the ath10k patched mac test)
>
> It would be good to add a flow to this test that exercises the VI
> queue (CS5 diffserv marking?), and to repeat this test with wmm
> disabled for comparison.
>
>
> Dave Täht
> Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!
> https://www.gofundme.com/savewifi
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>> it is helpful to name the test files coherently in the flent tests, in
>> addition to using a directory structure and timestamp. It makes doing
>> comparison plots in data->add-other-open-data-files simpler. "-t
>> patched-mac-300mbps", for example.
>>
>> Also netperf from svn (maybe 2.7, don't remember) will restart udp_rr
>> after a packet loss in 250ms. Seeing a loss on UDP_RR and it stop for
>> a while is "ok".
>> Dave Täht
>> Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!
>> https://www.gofundme.com/savewifi
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:26 AM, Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com> wrote:
>>> On 16 March 2016 at 11:17, Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Most notable changes:
>>> [...]
>>>>  * ath10k proof-of-concept that uses the new tx
>>>>    scheduling (will post results in separate
>>>>    email)
>>>
>>> I'm attaching a bunch of tests I've done using flent. They are all
>>> "burst" tests with burst-ports=1 and burst-length=2. The testing
>>> topology is:
>>>
>>>                    AP ----> STA
>>>                    AP )) (( STA
>>>  [veth]--[br]--[wlan] )) (( [wlan]
>>>
>>> You can notice that in some tests plot data gets cut-off. There are 2
>>> problems I've identified:
>>>  - excess drops (not a problem with the patchset and can be seen when
>>> there's no codel-in-mac or scheduling isn't used)
>>>  - UDP_RR hangs (apparently QCA99X0 I have hangs for a few hundred ms
>>> sometimes at times and doesn't Rx frames causing UDP_RR to stop
>>> mid-way; confirmed with logs and sniffer; I haven't figured out *why*
>>> exactly, could be some hw/fw quirk)
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have questions or comments regarding my testing/results.
>>>
>>>
>>> Michał

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From: Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" <codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ath10k@lists.infradead.org" <ath10k@lists.infradead.org>,
	make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [RFCv2 0/3] mac80211: implement fq codel
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 10:43:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+BoTQn5yLd3J87V_rXVpUgXMVYLv+0x9xkbnyxjcvamk9x0Tg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6tDdiYuginPbUY1DFJLiDxofHMFN6j2BvQPabPmBtuRw@mail.gmail.com>

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I've re-tested selected cases with wmm_enabled=0 set on the DUT AP.
I'm attaching results.

Naming:
 * "old-" is without mac/ath10k changes (referred to as kvalo-reverts
previously) and fq_codel on qdiscs,
 * "patched-" is all patches applied (both mac and ath),
 * "-be-bursts" is stock "bursts" flent test,
 * "-all-bursts" is modified "bursts" flent test to burst on all 3
tids simultaneously: tid0(BE), tid1(BK), tid5(VI).


Michał

On 16 March 2016 at 19:36, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> That is the sanest 802.11e queue behavior I have ever seen!  (at both
> 6 and 300mbit! in the ath10k patched mac test)
>
> It would be good to add a flow to this test that exercises the VI
> queue (CS5 diffserv marking?), and to repeat this test with wmm
> disabled for comparison.
>
>
> Dave Täht
> Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!
> https://www.gofundme.com/savewifi
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>> it is helpful to name the test files coherently in the flent tests, in
>> addition to using a directory structure and timestamp. It makes doing
>> comparison plots in data->add-other-open-data-files simpler. "-t
>> patched-mac-300mbps", for example.
>>
>> Also netperf from svn (maybe 2.7, don't remember) will restart udp_rr
>> after a packet loss in 250ms. Seeing a loss on UDP_RR and it stop for
>> a while is "ok".
>> Dave Täht
>> Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!
>> https://www.gofundme.com/savewifi
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:26 AM, Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com> wrote:
>>> On 16 March 2016 at 11:17, Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Most notable changes:
>>> [...]
>>>>  * ath10k proof-of-concept that uses the new tx
>>>>    scheduling (will post results in separate
>>>>    email)
>>>
>>> I'm attaching a bunch of tests I've done using flent. They are all
>>> "burst" tests with burst-ports=1 and burst-length=2. The testing
>>> topology is:
>>>
>>>                    AP ----> STA
>>>                    AP )) (( STA
>>>  [veth]--[br]--[wlan] )) (( [wlan]
>>>
>>> You can notice that in some tests plot data gets cut-off. There are 2
>>> problems I've identified:
>>>  - excess drops (not a problem with the patchset and can be seen when
>>> there's no codel-in-mac or scheduling isn't used)
>>>  - UDP_RR hangs (apparently QCA99X0 I have hangs for a few hundred ms
>>> sometimes at times and doesn't Rx frames causing UDP_RR to stop
>>> mid-way; confirmed with logs and sniffer; I haven't figured out *why*
>>> exactly, could be some hw/fw quirk)
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have questions or comments regarding my testing/results.
>>>
>>>
>>> Michał

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Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-16 10:17 [RFCv2 0/3] mac80211: implement fq codel Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17 ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17 ` [RFCv2 1/3] mac80211: implement fq_codel for software queuing Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-22  1:35   ` [Make-wifi-fast] " David Lang
2016-03-22  1:35     ` David Lang
2016-03-22  1:35     ` David Lang
2016-03-22  6:51     ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-22  6:51       ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-22  6:51       ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17 ` [RFCv2 2/3] ath10k: report per-station tx/rate rates to mac80211 Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-24  7:19   ` Mohammed Shafi Shajakhan
2016-03-24  7:19     ` Mohammed Shafi Shajakhan
2016-03-24  7:19     ` Mohammed Shafi Shajakhan
2016-03-24  7:49     ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-24  7:49       ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-24  7:49       ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-24 12:23       ` Mohammed Shafi Shajakhan
2016-03-24 12:23         ` Mohammed Shafi Shajakhan
2016-03-24 12:31         ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-24 12:31           ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-24 12:31           ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17 ` [RFCv2 3/3] ath10k: use ieee80211_tx_schedule() Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:26 ` [RFCv2 0/3] mac80211: implement fq codel Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:26   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 15:37   ` Dave Taht
2016-03-16 15:37     ` Dave Taht
2016-03-16 15:37     ` Dave Taht
2016-03-16 18:36     ` Dave Taht
2016-03-16 18:36       ` Dave Taht
2016-03-16 18:36       ` Dave Taht
2016-03-16 18:55       ` Bob Copeland
2016-03-16 18:55         ` Bob Copeland
2016-03-16 18:55         ` Bob Copeland
2016-03-16 19:48         ` Jasmine Strong
2016-03-17  8:55           ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17  8:55             ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17  8:55             ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17 11:12             ` Bob Copeland
2016-03-17 11:12               ` Bob Copeland
2016-03-17 17:00             ` Dave Taht
2016-03-17 17:00               ` Dave Taht
2016-03-17 17:00               ` Dave Taht
2016-03-17 17:24               ` [Codel] " Rick Jones
2016-03-17 17:24                 ` Rick Jones
2016-03-17 17:24                 ` Rick Jones
2016-03-21 11:57               ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-21 11:57                 ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17  9:43       ` Michal Kazior [this message]
2016-03-17  9:43         ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17  9:43         ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17  9:03     ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17  9:03       ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17  9:03       ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-25  9:27 ` [PATCH 0/2] mac80211: implement fq_codel Michal Kazior
2016-03-25  9:27   ` [PATCH 1/2] mac80211: implement fair queuing per txq Michal Kazior
2016-04-08  4:37     ` Avery Pennarun
2016-04-11  7:25       ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-25  9:27   ` [PATCH 2/2] mac80211: expose some txq/fq internals and knobs via debugfs Michal Kazior
2016-03-31 10:28   ` [PATCHv2 0/2] mac80211: implement fq_codel Michal Kazior
2016-03-31 10:28     ` [PATCHv2 1/2] mac80211: implement fair queuing per txq Michal Kazior
2016-04-05 13:57       ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-05 14:32         ` Dave Taht
2016-04-06  7:21           ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-06 17:39             ` Dave Taht
2016-04-07  8:53               ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-06  5:35         ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-06  6:03           ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Jonathan Morton
2016-04-06  7:16             ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-06 16:46               ` Jonathan Morton
2016-04-06  7:19           ` Johannes Berg
2016-03-31 10:28     ` [PATCHv2 2/2] mac80211: expose some txq/fq internals and knobs via debugfs Michal Kazior
2016-04-14 12:18     ` [PATCHv3 0/5] mac80211: implement fq_codel Michal Kazior
2016-04-14 12:18       ` [PATCHv3 1/5] mac80211: skip netdev queue control with software queuing Michal Kazior
2016-04-16 22:21         ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-18  5:39           ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-14 12:18       ` [PATCHv3 2/5] mac80211: implement fair queueing per txq Michal Kazior
2016-04-16 22:23         ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-16 22:25           ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-18  5:16             ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-18 12:31               ` [Codel] " Eric Dumazet
2016-04-18 13:36                 ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-19  9:10                   ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-14 12:18       ` [PATCHv3 3/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for fair queuing Michal Kazior
2016-04-14 12:18       ` [PATCHv3 4/5] mac80211: implement codel on fair queuing flows Michal Kazior
2016-04-16 22:29         ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-18  5:31           ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-18 12:38             ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-19  9:06               ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-19  9:31                 ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-19  9:57                   ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-14 12:18       ` [PATCHv3 5/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for codel Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 11:00       ` [PATCHv4 0/5] mac80211: implement fq_codel Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 11:00         ` [PATCHv4 1/5] mac80211: skip netdev queue control with software queuing Michal Kazior
2016-05-09 12:28           ` Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 11:00         ` [PATCHv4 2/5] mac80211: implement fair queueing per txq Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 11:00         ` [PATCHv4 3/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for fair queuing Michal Kazior
2016-06-09  9:48           ` Johannes Berg
2016-05-05 11:00         ` [PATCHv4 4/5] mac80211: implement codel on fair queuing flows Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 15:30           ` Dave Taht
2016-05-05 11:00         ` [PATCHv4 5/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for codel Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 15:21           ` Dave Taht
2016-05-06  5:27             ` Michal Kazior
2016-05-06  5:51               ` Dave Taht
2016-05-06  6:33                 ` Michal Kazior
2016-05-06  7:23                   ` Dave Taht
2016-05-19  8:37         ` [PATCHv5 0/5] mac80211: implement fq_codel Michal Kazior
2016-05-19  8:37           ` [PATCHv5 1/5] mac80211: skip netdev queue control with software queuing Michal Kazior
2016-05-19  8:37           ` [PATCHv5 2/5] mac80211: implement fair queueing per txq Michal Kazior
2016-05-19  8:37           ` [PATCHv5 3/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for fair queuing Michal Kazior
2016-05-19  8:37           ` [PATCHv5 4/5] mac80211: implement codel on fair queuing flows Michal Kazior
2016-05-19  8:37           ` [PATCHv5 5/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for codel Michal Kazior
2016-06-09  9:47             ` Johannes Berg
2016-05-31 12:12           ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv5 0/5] mac80211: implement fq_codel Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-05-31 12:31             ` Michal Kazior
2016-06-09  9:49           ` Johannes Berg
2016-03-21 17:10 [RFCv2 0/3] mac80211: implement fq codel Dave Taht
2016-03-21 17:10 ` Dave Taht
2016-03-21 17:10 ` Dave Taht
2016-03-22  8:05 ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-22  8:05   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-22  8:05   ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-22  9:51   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-03-22  9:51     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-03-22  9:51     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-03-22 14:24   ` Dave Taht
2016-03-22 14:24     ` Dave Taht

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