From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Andrew Lutomirski <luto@mit.edu>, Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
"user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
<user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] SYSCALL, ptrace and syscall restart breakages (Re: [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:17:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110823211744.GL2203@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzECeh_xRC=sF7qG_nc3bREqUNXXGmzcLHi4vndFvE6cg@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:43:28PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > And it's not cheap - doing that on each syscall will be unpleasant...
> > Frankly, I'd rather stopped telling the uml userland about vdso in such
> > setups. ?And anything that plays with SYSCALL outside of vdso... <shrug>
> > we already have a "don't run it native on 32bit", adding "don't run
> > it on 32bit uml on amd64 host" is not too serious. ?At least for now...
>
> I do agree that the solution might well be to just stop using the
> non-int80 vdsos for UML. That may just solve everything in practice.
SYSENTER works fine, actually... And we can easily check if we have an
affected SYSCALL, simply by forking a child, tracing it into a syscall
and doing POKEUSER to ebp on the second stop (i.e. on the way out).
If the value ends up in ecx after __kernel_vsyscall(), we have SYSCALL-based
variant on amd64 host, if it's lost completely - it's SYSENTER, if it shows
up in ebp - int 0x80.
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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Lutomirski <luto@mit.edu>,
"user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
<user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>,
"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] SYSCALL, ptrace and syscall restart breakages (Re: [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:17:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110823211744.GL2203@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzECeh_xRC=sF7qG_nc3bREqUNXXGmzcLHi4vndFvE6cg@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:43:28PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > And it's not cheap - doing that on each syscall will be unpleasant...
> > Frankly, I'd rather stopped telling the uml userland about vdso in such
> > setups. ?And anything that plays with SYSCALL outside of vdso... <shrug>
> > we already have a "don't run it native on 32bit", adding "don't run
> > it on 32bit uml on amd64 host" is not too serious. ?At least for now...
>
> I do agree that the solution might well be to just stop using the
> non-int80 vdsos for UML. That may just solve everything in practice.
SYSENTER works fine, actually... And we can easily check if we have an
affected SYSCALL, simply by forking a child, tracing it into a syscall
and doing POKEUSER to ebp on the second stop (i.e. on the way out).
If the value ends up in ecx after __kernel_vsyscall(), we have SYSCALL-based
variant on amd64 host, if it's lost completely - it's SYSENTER, if it shows
up in ebp - int 0x80.
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2011-08-18 18:58 Subject: [PATCH 00/91] pending uml patches Al Viro
2011-08-18 18:58 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-18 19:12 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-18 19:12 ` [uml-devel] " Richard Weinberger
2011-08-18 19:19 ` Al Viro
2011-08-18 19:19 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-19 4:31 ` Al Viro
2011-08-19 8:51 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-19 8:51 ` [uml-devel] " Richard Weinberger
2011-08-20 1:18 ` [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386 Al Viro
2011-08-20 15:22 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-20 20:14 ` Al Viro
2011-08-20 20:14 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-20 20:55 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-20 21:26 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-20 21:26 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-20 21:38 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-20 21:38 ` [uml-devel] " Richard Weinberger
2011-08-20 21:40 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-20 21:40 ` [uml-devel] " Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-21 6:34 ` Al Viro
2011-08-21 6:34 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-21 8:42 ` SYSCALL, ptrace and syscall restart breakages (Re: [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386) Al Viro
2011-08-21 8:42 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-21 11:24 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-21 11:24 ` [uml-devel] " Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-21 13:37 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-21 13:37 ` [uml-devel] " Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-21 14:51 ` Al Viro
2011-08-21 14:51 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-21 14:43 ` Al Viro
2011-08-21 16:41 ` Al Viro
2011-08-21 16:41 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-22 0:44 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 0:44 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 1:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-22 1:19 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 1:19 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-22 1:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 1:19 ` [uml-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 21:25 ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86-32, vdso: On system call restart after SYSENTER, use int $0x80 tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 23:40 ` tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 1:16 ` SYSCALL, ptrace and syscall restart breakages (Re: [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386) Al Viro
2011-08-22 1:16 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-22 1:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-22 1:41 ` [uml-devel] " Linus Torvalds
2011-08-22 1:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 1:48 ` [uml-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 2:01 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 2:01 ` [uml-devel] " Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 2:07 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 2:07 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-22 2:26 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 2:26 ` [uml-devel] " Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 2:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 2:34 ` [uml-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 4:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 4:05 ` [uml-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 9:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-08-22 13:34 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 13:34 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 14:40 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-08-22 14:40 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-08-22 15:13 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 15:13 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 20:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-22 20:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-22 20:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 20:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 21:52 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 21:52 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-22 22:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 22:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 23:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-22 23:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 23:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 0:03 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 0:03 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 0:07 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 0:07 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 0:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 0:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 0:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 0:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 1:01 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 1:13 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 1:13 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 1:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 1:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 2:59 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 2:59 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 2:17 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 6:15 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 14:26 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-08-23 16:30 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 16:30 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 16:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 16:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 16:11 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-23 16:11 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-23 16:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 16:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 17:33 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 17:33 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 18:04 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 18:04 ` Al Viro
2011-08-24 12:44 ` [PATCH] x86, asm: Document some of the syscall asm glue Borislav Petkov
2011-08-23 16:22 ` [uml-devel] SYSCALL, ptrace and syscall restart breakages (Re: [RFC] weird crap with vdso on uml/i386) Borislav Petkov
2011-08-23 16:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 16:53 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 16:53 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 16:58 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-23 16:58 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-23 17:07 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 17:07 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 17:29 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-23 17:29 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-25 0:05 ` Richard Weinberger
2011-08-23 19:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 19:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 20:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-08-23 21:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 21:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2011-08-23 23:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 23:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-24 21:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-24 21:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 16:48 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 16:48 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 21:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 21:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 21:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 21:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 23:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 23:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 19:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 19:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 19:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 19:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 19:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 19:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 19:41 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 19:41 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 19:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 19:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-08-23 21:17 ` Al Viro [this message]
2011-08-23 21:17 ` Al Viro
2011-08-23 1:16 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-23 1:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 1:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 4:07 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 4:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 4:11 ` [uml-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 4:26 ` Al Viro
2011-08-22 4:26 ` [uml-devel] " Al Viro
2011-08-22 5:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-22 5:03 ` [uml-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-23 5:10 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-23 5:10 ` [uml-devel] " Andrew Lutomirski
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