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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Satoru Moriya <satoru.moriya@hds.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
	Satoru Moriya <smoriya@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"lwoodman@redhat.com" <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
	Seiji Aguchi <saguchi@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2 -mm] add extra free kbytes tunable
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:35:01 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111013143501.a59efa5c.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1110121654120.30123@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:01:21 -0700 (PDT)
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Oct 2011, Satoru Moriya wrote:

> > I understand what you concern. But in some area such as banking,
> > stock exchange, train/power/plant control sysemts etc this kind
> > of tunable is welcomed because they can tune their systems at
> > their own risk.
> > 
> 
> You haven't tried the patch that increases the priority of kswapd when 
> such a latency sensitive thread triggers background reclaim?

I don't read full story but....how about adding a new syscall like

==
sys_mem_shrink(int nid, int nr_scan_pages, int flags)

This system call scans LRU of specified nodes and free pages on LRU.
This scan nr_scan_pages in LRU and returns the number of successfully
freed pages.
==

Then, running this progam in SCHED_IDLE, a user can make free pages while
the system is idle. If running in the highest priority, a user can keep
free pages as he want. If a user run this under a memcg, user can free
pages in a memcg. 

Maybe many guys don't want to export memory-shrink facility to userland ;)
This is just an idea.

Thanks,
-Kame


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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Satoru Moriya <satoru.moriya@hds.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
	Satoru Moriya <smoriya@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"lwoodman@redhat.com" <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
	Seiji Aguchi <saguchi@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2 -mm] add extra free kbytes tunable
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:35:01 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111013143501.a59efa5c.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1110121654120.30123@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:01:21 -0700 (PDT)
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Oct 2011, Satoru Moriya wrote:

> > I understand what you concern. But in some area such as banking,
> > stock exchange, train/power/plant control sysemts etc this kind
> > of tunable is welcomed because they can tune their systems at
> > their own risk.
> > 
> 
> You haven't tried the patch that increases the priority of kswapd when 
> such a latency sensitive thread triggers background reclaim?

I don't read full story but....how about adding a new syscall like

==
sys_mem_shrink(int nid, int nr_scan_pages, int flags)

This system call scans LRU of specified nodes and free pages on LRU.
This scan nr_scan_pages in LRU and returns the number of successfully
freed pages.
==

Then, running this progam in SCHED_IDLE, a user can make free pages while
the system is idle. If running in the highest priority, a user can keep
free pages as he want. If a user run this under a memcg, user can free
pages in a memcg. 

Maybe many guys don't want to export memory-shrink facility to userland ;)
This is just an idea.

Thanks,
-Kame

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-13  5:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-01 14:52 [PATCH -mm] add extra free kbytes tunable Rik van Riel
2011-09-01 14:52 ` Rik van Riel
2011-09-01 17:06 ` Randy Dunlap
2011-09-01 17:06   ` Randy Dunlap
2011-09-01 19:26   ` [PATCH -v2 " Rik van Riel
2011-09-01 19:26     ` Rik van Riel
2011-09-01 21:58     ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-01 21:58       ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-01 22:08       ` David Rientjes
2011-09-01 22:08         ` David Rientjes
2011-09-01 22:16         ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-01 22:16           ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-02 16:31       ` Satoru Moriya
2011-09-02 16:31         ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-13  7:33         ` Minchan Kim
2011-10-13  7:33           ` Minchan Kim
2011-10-13  8:09           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-10-13  8:09             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]       ` <E1FA588BC672D846BDBB452FCA1E308C2389B4@USINDEVS02.corp.hds.com>
2011-09-15  3:33         ` Satoru Moriya
2011-09-15  3:33           ` Satoru Moriya
2011-09-01 22:09     ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-01 22:09       ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-02 16:26       ` [PATCH -mm] fixes & cleanups for "add extra free kbytes tunable" Rik van Riel
2011-09-02 16:26         ` Rik van Riel
2011-09-30 21:43     ` [PATCH -v2 -mm] add extra free kbytes tunable Johannes Weiner
2011-09-30 21:43       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-10-08  3:08     ` David Rientjes
2011-10-08  3:08       ` David Rientjes
2011-10-10 22:37       ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-10 22:37         ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-11 19:32         ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-11 19:32           ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-11 19:54           ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-11 19:54             ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-11 20:23             ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-11 20:23               ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-11 20:54               ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-11 20:54                 ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-12 13:09                 ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-12 13:09                   ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-12 19:20                   ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-12 19:20                     ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-12 19:58                     ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-12 19:58                       ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-12 20:26                       ` David Rientjes
2011-10-12 20:26                         ` David Rientjes
2011-10-21 23:48                       ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-21 23:48                         ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-23 21:22                         ` David Rientjes
2011-10-23 21:22                           ` David Rientjes
2011-10-25  2:04                           ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-25  2:04                             ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-25 21:50                             ` David Rientjes
2011-10-25 21:50                               ` David Rientjes
2011-10-26 18:59                               ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-26 18:59                                 ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-12 21:08                 ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-12 21:08                   ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-12 22:41                   ` David Rientjes
2011-10-12 22:41                     ` David Rientjes
2011-10-12 23:52                     ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-12 23:52                       ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-13  0:01                       ` David Rientjes
2011-10-13  0:01                         ` David Rientjes
2011-10-13  5:35                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2011-10-13  5:35                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-10-13 20:55                           ` David Rientjes
2011-10-13 20:55                             ` David Rientjes
2011-10-14 22:16                             ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-14 22:16                               ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-14 22:46                               ` David Rientjes
2011-10-14 22:46                                 ` David Rientjes
2011-10-14  5:32                           ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-14  5:32                             ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-14  5:06                         ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-14  5:06                           ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-11 23:22           ` David Rientjes
2011-10-11 23:22             ` David Rientjes
2011-10-13 16:54             ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-13 16:54               ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-13 20:48               ` David Rientjes
2011-10-13 20:48                 ` David Rientjes
2011-10-13 21:11                 ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-13 21:11                   ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-13 22:02                   ` David Rientjes
2011-10-13 22:02                     ` David Rientjes
2011-10-11 19:20       ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-11 19:20         ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-11 21:04         ` David Rientjes
2011-10-11 21:04           ` David Rientjes
2011-10-12 13:13           ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-12 13:13             ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-12 20:21             ` David Rientjes
2011-10-12 20:21               ` David Rientjes
2011-10-13  4:13               ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-13  4:13                 ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-13  5:22                 ` David Rientjes
2011-10-13  5:22                   ` David Rientjes
2011-10-22  0:11                   ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-22  0:11                     ` Satoru Moriya
2011-09-09 23:01 Satoru Moriya
2011-09-09 23:01 ` Satoru Moriya

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