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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Satoru Moriya <satoru.moriya@hds.com>,
	Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
	Satoru Moriya <smoriya@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"lwoodman@redhat.com" <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
	Seiji Aguchi <saguchi@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	"hannes@cmpxchg.org" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2 -mm] add extra free kbytes tunable
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:02:56 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1110131501490.24853@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E97541F.9050805@redhat.com>

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011, Rik van Riel wrote:

> Userspace cannot be responsible, for the simple reason that
> the allocations might be done in the kernel.
> 
> Think about an mlocked realtime program handling network
> packets. Memory is allocated when packets come in, and when
> the program calls sys_send(), which causes packets to get
> sent.
> 
> I don't see how we can make userspace responsible for
> kernel-side allocations.
> 

All of this is what Minchan was proposing by allowing a mempool of kernel 
memory to be preallocated and managed by the memory controller.

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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Satoru Moriya <satoru.moriya@hds.com>,
	Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
	Satoru Moriya <smoriya@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"lwoodman@redhat.com" <lwoodman@redhat.com>,
	Seiji Aguchi <saguchi@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	"hannes@cmpxchg.org" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2 -mm] add extra free kbytes tunable
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 15:02:56 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1110131501490.24853@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E97541F.9050805@redhat.com>

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011, Rik van Riel wrote:

> Userspace cannot be responsible, for the simple reason that
> the allocations might be done in the kernel.
> 
> Think about an mlocked realtime program handling network
> packets. Memory is allocated when packets come in, and when
> the program calls sys_send(), which causes packets to get
> sent.
> 
> I don't see how we can make userspace responsible for
> kernel-side allocations.
> 

All of this is what Minchan was proposing by allowing a mempool of kernel 
memory to be preallocated and managed by the memory controller.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-13 22:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-01 14:52 [PATCH -mm] add extra free kbytes tunable Rik van Riel
2011-09-01 14:52 ` Rik van Riel
2011-09-01 17:06 ` Randy Dunlap
2011-09-01 17:06   ` Randy Dunlap
2011-09-01 19:26   ` [PATCH -v2 " Rik van Riel
2011-09-01 19:26     ` Rik van Riel
2011-09-01 21:58     ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-01 21:58       ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-01 22:08       ` David Rientjes
2011-09-01 22:08         ` David Rientjes
2011-09-01 22:16         ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-01 22:16           ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-02 16:31       ` Satoru Moriya
2011-09-02 16:31         ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-13  7:33         ` Minchan Kim
2011-10-13  7:33           ` Minchan Kim
2011-10-13  8:09           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-10-13  8:09             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]       ` <E1FA588BC672D846BDBB452FCA1E308C2389B4@USINDEVS02.corp.hds.com>
2011-09-15  3:33         ` Satoru Moriya
2011-09-15  3:33           ` Satoru Moriya
2011-09-01 22:09     ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-01 22:09       ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-02 16:26       ` [PATCH -mm] fixes & cleanups for "add extra free kbytes tunable" Rik van Riel
2011-09-02 16:26         ` Rik van Riel
2011-09-30 21:43     ` [PATCH -v2 -mm] add extra free kbytes tunable Johannes Weiner
2011-09-30 21:43       ` Johannes Weiner
2011-10-08  3:08     ` David Rientjes
2011-10-08  3:08       ` David Rientjes
2011-10-10 22:37       ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-10 22:37         ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-11 19:32         ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-11 19:32           ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-11 19:54           ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-11 19:54             ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-11 20:23             ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-11 20:23               ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-11 20:54               ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-11 20:54                 ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-12 13:09                 ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-12 13:09                   ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-12 19:20                   ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-12 19:20                     ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-12 19:58                     ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-12 19:58                       ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-12 20:26                       ` David Rientjes
2011-10-12 20:26                         ` David Rientjes
2011-10-21 23:48                       ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-21 23:48                         ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-23 21:22                         ` David Rientjes
2011-10-23 21:22                           ` David Rientjes
2011-10-25  2:04                           ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-25  2:04                             ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-25 21:50                             ` David Rientjes
2011-10-25 21:50                               ` David Rientjes
2011-10-26 18:59                               ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-26 18:59                                 ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-12 21:08                 ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-12 21:08                   ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-12 22:41                   ` David Rientjes
2011-10-12 22:41                     ` David Rientjes
2011-10-12 23:52                     ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-12 23:52                       ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-13  0:01                       ` David Rientjes
2011-10-13  0:01                         ` David Rientjes
2011-10-13  5:35                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-10-13  5:35                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-10-13 20:55                           ` David Rientjes
2011-10-13 20:55                             ` David Rientjes
2011-10-14 22:16                             ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-14 22:16                               ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-14 22:46                               ` David Rientjes
2011-10-14 22:46                                 ` David Rientjes
2011-10-14  5:32                           ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-14  5:32                             ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-14  5:06                         ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-14  5:06                           ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-11 23:22           ` David Rientjes
2011-10-11 23:22             ` David Rientjes
2011-10-13 16:54             ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-13 16:54               ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-13 20:48               ` David Rientjes
2011-10-13 20:48                 ` David Rientjes
2011-10-13 21:11                 ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-13 21:11                   ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-13 22:02                   ` David Rientjes [this message]
2011-10-13 22:02                     ` David Rientjes
2011-10-11 19:20       ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-11 19:20         ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-11 21:04         ` David Rientjes
2011-10-11 21:04           ` David Rientjes
2011-10-12 13:13           ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-12 13:13             ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-12 20:21             ` David Rientjes
2011-10-12 20:21               ` David Rientjes
2011-10-13  4:13               ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-13  4:13                 ` Rik van Riel
2011-10-13  5:22                 ` David Rientjes
2011-10-13  5:22                   ` David Rientjes
2011-10-22  0:11                   ` Satoru Moriya
2011-10-22  0:11                     ` Satoru Moriya
2011-09-09 23:01 Satoru Moriya
2011-09-09 23:01 ` Satoru Moriya

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