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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Andrew Fish <afish@apple.com>,
	edk2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [edk2] Corrupted EFI region
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:37:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52001B04.2050806@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130805181225.GH31845@pd.tnic>

On 08/05/2013 11:12 AM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 08:50:17AM -0700, Andrew Fish wrote:
>> AFAICT EFI pre-dates kexec merge into mainline by a number of years as
>> SetVirtualaddressMap() was part of EFI 1.0 (previous millennium)
> 
> Ok, fair enough.
> 
>> The EFI to UEFI conversion was placing EFI 1.10 into an industry
>> standard, UEFI 2.0. UEFI is an industry standard so some one just
>> needs to make a proposal to update the spec. The edk2 open source
>> project is not part of the standards body so complaining on this
>> mailing list is not going to get anything changed.
> 
> Right, I don't think that even changing the spec would help - it would
> actually make things worse because then we'd have to differentiate
> between UEFI versions: those which can do SetVirtualaddressMap() more
> than once and the older ones.
> 
> So let's drop the discussion here - it is what it is, it is too late to
> change anything. At least we talked about it. :-)
> 

All of this would be a non-problem if there weren't buggy
implementations which can't run *without* SetVirtualAddressMap().

	-=hpa



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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	edk2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [edk2] Corrupted EFI region
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 14:37:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52001B04.2050806@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130805181225.GH31845@pd.tnic>

On 08/05/2013 11:12 AM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 08:50:17AM -0700, Andrew Fish wrote:
>> AFAICT EFI pre-dates kexec merge into mainline by a number of years as
>> SetVirtualaddressMap() was part of EFI 1.0 (previous millennium)
> 
> Ok, fair enough.
> 
>> The EFI to UEFI conversion was placing EFI 1.10 into an industry
>> standard, UEFI 2.0. UEFI is an industry standard so some one just
>> needs to make a proposal to update the spec. The edk2 open source
>> project is not part of the standards body so complaining on this
>> mailing list is not going to get anything changed.
> 
> Right, I don't think that even changing the spec would help - it would
> actually make things worse because then we'd have to differentiate
> between UEFI versions: those which can do SetVirtualaddressMap() more
> than once and the older ones.
> 
> So let's drop the discussion here - it is what it is, it is too late to
> change anything. At least we talked about it. :-)
> 

All of this would be a non-problem if there weren't buggy
implementations which can't run *without* SetVirtualAddressMap().

	-=hpa



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  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-05 21:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-31 20:54 Corrupted EFI region Borislav Petkov
2013-07-31 20:54 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-31 20:58 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-07-31 20:58   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-07-31 21:51   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-31 21:51     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-31 21:54     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-07-31 21:54       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-01 16:51       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-01 16:51         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-31 21:55 ` David Woodhouse
2013-07-31 21:55   ` David Woodhouse
2013-08-01 16:49   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-01 16:49     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 11:27     ` [edk2] " Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 11:27       ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 13:02       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 13:02         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 13:39         ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 13:39           ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 14:03           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 14:03             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 14:27             ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 14:27               ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 14:40               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 14:40                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 15:15                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 15:15                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 15:34                   ` James Bottomley
2013-08-05 15:34                     ` James Bottomley
2013-08-05 16:27                     ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 16:27                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 16:12                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 16:12                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 16:41                     ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 16:41                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 16:47                       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 16:47                         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 17:00                         ` Kinney, Michael D
2013-08-05 17:00                           ` Kinney, Michael D
2013-08-05 17:09                         ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 17:09                           ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 21:26                         ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 21:26                           ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 22:08                           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 22:08                             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-06 14:10                             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-06 14:10                               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-06 15:31                               ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-06 15:31                                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-07 15:19                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-07 17:23                                   ` Andrew Fish
2013-08-07 17:23                                     ` Andrew Fish
2013-08-07 20:19                                     ` Matt Fleming
2013-08-07 20:19                                       ` Matt Fleming
2013-08-07 20:24                                       ` Matt Fleming
2013-08-07 20:24                                         ` Matt Fleming
2013-08-07 21:10                                       ` Andrew Fish
2013-08-07 21:10                                         ` Andrew Fish
2013-08-07 21:23                                         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-08-08 10:17                                         ` Matt Fleming
2013-08-08 10:17                                           ` Matt Fleming
2013-08-08 13:46                                           ` Andrew Fish
2013-08-08 13:46                                             ` Andrew Fish
2013-09-02  8:19                                             ` Matt Fleming
2013-09-02  8:19                                               ` Matt Fleming
2013-09-13 20:38                                           ` jerry.hoemann
2013-09-13 20:38                                             ` jerry.hoemann-VXdhtT5mjnY
2013-09-16 10:59                                             ` Matt Fleming
2013-09-16 10:59                                               ` Matt Fleming
2013-09-16 11:50                                               ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-09-16 11:50                                                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-09-16 15:57                                                 ` Josh Triplett
2013-09-16 15:57                                                   ` Josh Triplett
2013-09-16 16:25                                                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-09-16 16:25                                                     ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-09-16 16:27                                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-09-16 16:27                                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-09-16 16:29                                                     ` Josh Triplett
2013-09-16 16:29                                                       ` Josh Triplett
2013-09-18 19:24                                               ` jerry.hoemann
2013-09-18 19:24                                                 ` jerry.hoemann-VXdhtT5mjnY
2013-09-20  9:06                                                 ` Matt Fleming
2013-09-20  9:06                                                   ` Matt Fleming
2013-08-07 17:49                                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-07 17:49                                     ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-08 15:02                                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-08 15:02                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-08 21:45                                       ` Brian J. Johnson
2013-08-08 21:45                                         ` Brian J. Johnson
2013-08-18  7:33                                     ` Jordan Justen
2013-08-18  7:33                                       ` Jordan Justen
2013-08-05 15:50                 ` Andrew Fish
2013-08-05 15:50                   ` Andrew Fish
2013-08-05 18:12                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 18:12                     ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 21:37                     ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-08-05 21:37                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-05 21:41                       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 21:41                         ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 21:49                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-05 21:49                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-05 21:55                         ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 21:55                           ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 22:52                           ` James Bottomley
2013-08-05 22:52                             ` James Bottomley
2013-08-06  7:26                             ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-06  7:26                               ` Laszlo Ersek

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