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From: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
To: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
Cc: <peterz@infradead.org>, <mingo@redhat.com>, <acme@kernel.org>,
	<alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>, <namhyung@kernel.org>,
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	<mark.rutland@arm.com>, <xuwei5@hisilicon.com>,
	<linuxarm@huawei.com>, <zhangshaokun@hisilicon.com>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/5] perf jevents: add support for arch recommended events
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 17:17:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <850a0774-9442-c836-f457-69e1e0d72fb2@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171221193917.GB1105@krava>

On 21/12/2017 19:39, Jiri Olsa wrote:
>> Hi Jirka,
>> >
>> > When you say reasonable size for x86, I ran a string duplication finder on
>> > the x86 JSONs and the results show a huge amount of duplication. Please
>> > check this:
>> > https://gist.githubusercontent.com/johnpgarry/68bc87e823ae2ce0f7b475b4e55e5795/raw/f4cea138999d8b34151b9586d733592e01774d7a/x86%2520JSON%2520duplication
>> >
>> > Extract:
>> > "Found a 65 line (311 tokens) duplication in the following files:
>> > Starting at line 100 of
>> > /linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/ivybridge/ivb-metrics.json
>> > Starting at line 100 of
>> > /linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/ivytown/ivt-metrics.json
>> > Starting at line 100 of
>> > /linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/broadwell/bdw-metrics.json
>> > Starting at line 100 of
>> > /linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/skylakex/skx-metrics.json
>> > Starting at line 76 of
>> > /linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/jaketown/jkt-metrics.json
>> > Starting at line 100 of
>> > /linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/skylake/skl-metrics.json
>> > Starting at line 76 of
>> > /linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/sandybridge/snb-metrics.json
>> > Starting at line 100 of
>> > /linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/broadwellx/bdx-metrics.json"
>> >


Hi Jirka,

Sorry for the slow reply.

>> > Won't this all potentially have a big maintainence cost?
> as Andi said it's mostly just the disk space,
> which is not big deal
>
> I'm not doing JSON file updates, but I think having
> simple single dir for platform/cpu could save us some
> confusion in future

Understood. But for ARM, which has very standardised architecture 
events, it is good to reduce this event duplication between platforms.

>
> however I won't oppose if you want to add this logic,
> but please:
>   - use the list_head ;-)

Of course

>   - leave the process_one_file function simple
>     and separate the level0 processing

ok, this is how it should look already, albeit a couple of 
process_one_file() modifications. I'll re-check this.

>   - you are using 'EventCode' as an unique ID to find
>     the base, but it's not unique for x86, you'll need
>     to add some other ID scheme that fits to all archs

Right, so you mentioned earlier using a new keyword token to identify 
whether we use the standard event, so we can go his way - ok?

I would also like to mention at this point why I did the event 
pre-processing in jevents, and not a separate script:
- current build does not transverse the arch tree
	- tree transversal for JSON processing is done in jevents
- a script would mean derived objects, which means:
	- makefile changes for derived objects
	- jevents would have to deal with derived objects
- jevents already has support for JSON processing

The advantage of using a script is that we keep the JSON processing in 
jevents simple.

All the best,
John

>
> thanks,
> jirka
>

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: john.garry@huawei.com (John Garry)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 2/5] perf jevents: add support for arch recommended events
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 17:17:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <850a0774-9442-c836-f457-69e1e0d72fb2@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171221193917.GB1105@krava>

On 21/12/2017 19:39, Jiri Olsa wrote:
>> Hi Jirka,
>> >
>> > When you say reasonable size for x86, I ran a string duplication finder on
>> > the x86 JSONs and the results show a huge amount of duplication. Please
>> > check this:
>> > https://gist.githubusercontent.com/johnpgarry/68bc87e823ae2ce0f7b475b4e55e5795/raw/f4cea138999d8b34151b9586d733592e01774d7a/x86%2520JSON%2520duplication
>> >
>> > Extract:
>> > "Found a 65 line (311 tokens) duplication in the following files:
>> > Starting at line 100 of
>> > /linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/ivybridge/ivb-metrics.json
>> > Starting at line 100 of
>> > /linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/ivytown/ivt-metrics.json
>> > Starting at line 100 of
>> > /linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/broadwell/bdw-metrics.json
>> > Starting at line 100 of
>> > /linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/skylakex/skx-metrics.json
>> > Starting at line 76 of
>> > /linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/jaketown/jkt-metrics.json
>> > Starting at line 100 of
>> > /linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/skylake/skl-metrics.json
>> > Starting at line 76 of
>> > /linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/sandybridge/snb-metrics.json
>> > Starting at line 100 of
>> > /linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/broadwellx/bdx-metrics.json"
>> >


Hi Jirka,

Sorry for the slow reply.

>> > Won't this all potentially have a big maintainence cost?
> as Andi said it's mostly just the disk space,
> which is not big deal
>
> I'm not doing JSON file updates, but I think having
> simple single dir for platform/cpu could save us some
> confusion in future

Understood. But for ARM, which has very standardised architecture 
events, it is good to reduce this event duplication between platforms.

>
> however I won't oppose if you want to add this logic,
> but please:
>   - use the list_head ;-)

Of course

>   - leave the process_one_file function simple
>     and separate the level0 processing

ok, this is how it should look already, albeit a couple of 
process_one_file() modifications. I'll re-check this.

>   - you are using 'EventCode' as an unique ID to find
>     the base, but it's not unique for x86, you'll need
>     to add some other ID scheme that fits to all archs

Right, so you mentioned earlier using a new keyword token to identify 
whether we use the standard event, so we can go his way - ok?

I would also like to mention at this point why I did the event 
pre-processing in jevents, and not a separate script:
- current build does not transverse the arch tree
	- tree transversal for JSON processing is done in jevents
- a script would mean derived objects, which means:
	- makefile changes for derived objects
	- jevents would have to deal with derived objects
- jevents already has support for JSON processing

The advantage of using a script is that we keep the JSON processing in 
jevents simple.

All the best,
John

>
> thanks,
> jirka
>

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-04 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-05 16:13 [RFC PATCH 0/5] perf events patches for improved ARM64 support John Garry
2017-12-05 16:13 ` John Garry
2017-12-05 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] perf jevents: add support for pmu events vendor subdirectory John Garry
2017-12-05 16:13   ` John Garry
2017-12-06 13:38   ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-06 13:38     ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-06 14:41     ` John Garry
2017-12-06 14:41       ` John Garry
2017-12-05 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] perf jevents: add support for arch recommended events John Garry
2017-12-05 16:13   ` John Garry
2017-12-05 17:27   ` Andi Kleen
2017-12-05 17:27     ` Andi Kleen
2017-12-06  8:34     ` John Garry
2017-12-06  8:34       ` John Garry
2017-12-06 13:36   ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-06 13:36     ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-06 15:20     ` John Garry
2017-12-06 15:20       ` John Garry
2017-12-08 12:29       ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-08 12:29         ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-08 15:42         ` John Garry
2017-12-08 15:42           ` John Garry
2017-12-09  7:31           ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-09  7:31             ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-11 10:25             ` John Garry
2017-12-11 10:25               ` John Garry
2017-12-15 11:22             ` John Garry
2017-12-15 11:22               ` John Garry
2017-12-16 18:47               ` Andi Kleen
2017-12-16 18:47                 ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-02 12:07                 ` John Garry
2018-01-02 12:07                   ` John Garry
2018-01-02 17:48                   ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-02 17:48                     ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-03 12:22                     ` John Garry
2018-01-03 12:22                       ` John Garry
2017-12-21 19:39               ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-21 19:39                 ` Jiri Olsa
2018-01-04 17:17                 ` John Garry [this message]
2018-01-04 17:17                   ` John Garry
2018-01-08 14:08                   ` Jiri Olsa
2018-01-08 14:08                     ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-06 13:37   ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-06 13:37     ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-06 14:40     ` John Garry
2017-12-06 14:40       ` John Garry
2017-12-08 12:31       ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-08 12:31         ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-08 15:38         ` John Garry
2017-12-08 15:38           ` John Garry
2017-12-09  7:26           ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-09  7:26             ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-05 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] perf vendor events arm64: add armv8 recommended events JSON John Garry
2017-12-05 16:13   ` John Garry
2017-12-05 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] perf vendor events arm64: relocate thunderx2 JSON John Garry
2017-12-05 16:13   ` John Garry
2017-12-05 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] perf vendor events arm64: add HiSilicon hip08 JSON John Garry
2017-12-05 16:13   ` John Garry
2017-12-06 16:42 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] perf events patches for improved ARM64 support William Cohen
2017-12-06 16:42   ` William Cohen
2017-12-06 17:35   ` John Garry
2017-12-06 17:35     ` John Garry

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