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From: "A.S. Dong" <aisheng.dong@nxp.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>
Cc: "linux-serial@vger.kernel.org" <linux-serial@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm Mailing List" <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.com>, Andy Duan <fugang.duan@nxp.com>,
	Stefan Agner <stefan@agner.ch>, Mingkai Hu <mingkai.hu@nxp.com>,
	"Y.B. Lu" <yangbo.lu@nxp.com>, Dong Aisheng <dongas86@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 6/6] tty: serial: lpuart: add a more accurate baud rate calculation method
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 14:20:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM3PR04MB30678CBD87777C6816DEFA580CE0@AM3PR04MB306.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHp75VcSToSfbUZ2TP0OsLRjV4TNpq7D_=4tnB_+rDvS2jp22Q@mail.gmail.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Shevchenko [mailto:andy.shevchenko@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 5:26 PM
> To: A.S. Dong
> Cc: linux-serial@vger.kernel.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linux-arm
> Mailing List; Greg Kroah-Hartman; Jiri Slaby; Andy Duan; Stefan Agner;
> Mingkai Hu; Y.B. Lu; Dong Aisheng
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] tty: serial: lpuart: add a more accurate baud
> rate calculation method
> 
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 11:01 AM, A.S. Dong <aisheng.dong@nxp.com> wrote:
> 
> >> >> > +       u32 sbr, osr, baud_diff, tmp_osr, tmp_sbr, tmp_diff, tmp;
> >> >> > +       u32 clk = sport->port.uartclk;
> >> >> > +
> >> >> > +       /*
> >> >> > +        * The idea is to use the best OSR (over-sampling rate)
> >> possible.
> >> >> > +        * Note, OSR is typically hard-set to 16 in other LPUART
> >> >> instantiations.
> >> >> > +        * Loop to find the best OSR value possible, one that
> >> >> > + generates
> >> >> minimum
> >> >> > +        * baud_diff iterate through the rest of the supported
> >> >> > + values of
> >> >> OSR.
> >> >> > +        *
> >> >> > +        * Calculation Formula:
> >> >> > +        *  Baud Rate = baud clock / ((OSR+1) × SBR)
> >> >> > +        */
> >> >> > +       baud_diff = baudrate;
> >> >> > +       osr = 0;
> >> >> > +       sbr = 0;
> >> >> > +
> >> >>
> >> >> > +       for (tmp_osr = 4; tmp_osr <= 32; tmp_osr++) {
> >>
> >> I missed one thing, what happened by default to OSR? What is the
> >> value in use?
> >>
> >
> > No valid default value. (osc/sbr are 0 by default) If no proper osc
> > and sbr calculated, a WARNING will show.
> 
> Okay, so, it means the maximum supported speed is UART clock / 4. Correct?
> 

Yes.

> >> So, the algo is the following:
> >>
> >> Assume the ranges like this:
> >> OSR = [4 ... 32]
> >> SBR = [2 ... 8192]
> >>
> >
> > Baud Rate = baud clock / ((OSR+1) × SBR)
> >
> > In HW:
> > OSR range : 3 – 31
> > SBR range: 1 – 8191
> 
> I've read that, but think outside the box.
> 
> >> Then:
> >>
> >> 1. Get ratio factor as
> >>       ratio = CLK / desired baud rate 2. If ratio < 8192 * 9 / 2,
> >> just use (ratio / 4, 4) as (OSR, SBR) setting.
> >> (Needs clarification on OSR < 4)
> >
> > Sorry that I'm a bit mess here.
> > What is 8192 * 9 /2 meaning?
> 
> I forgot the details...
> 
> > And for (ratio / 4, 4) as (OSR,SBR), take 115200 as an example:
> > Assuming baud clock 24Mhz.
> >
> > Ratio = 24000000 / 115200 = 208
> > OSR = Ratio / 4 = 52
> > Then OSR is out of range which seems wrong.
> 
> ...yes...
> 
> >> 3. if ratio >= 8192 * 31, just use those two numbers (8192, 31). You
> >> can't do anything better there.
> >
> > This actually may not happen.
> > Even take a 9600 as example, the clk becomes:
> > 8191 * 31 * 9600 = 2.4GHz
> > Which is theoretically not exist.
> >
> >> 4. Otherwise, get a minimum required factor of OSR
> >>       osr_min = ratio / 8192
> >> 5. Start your loop from osr_min + 1 to 31.
> >>
> >> 6 (optional). Of course you may not consider baud_diff > osr_min,
> >> it's I suppose obvious
> >>
> >> P.S. Note, all divisions by 2^n are just simple right shifts. Diffs
> >> are calculated as multiplication of OSR and SBR in comparison to
> >> ratio. One division so far.
> 
> > I'm not quite understand the approach.
> 
> ...lemme prepare a python script demonstrating it.
> 

Great, thanks

> > How about you send a separate baud algorithm improvement patch later?
> 
> Why not to do it right a way?
> 

Because I thought that could be a separate patch which is doing algorithm
improvement, then we can have the full history and a clear comparison.

And also we are still not sure whether it works, we don't want to block on it
too long.

But if you're pretty sure about it, I would wait for some more time.

However, personally I would still rather keep them in two separate Patches
for clearer history and comparison.

> Just describe it in a comment if you afraid of reader can't understand
> from the code.
> 

That is good.

Regards
Dong Aisheng

> --
> With Best Regards,
> Andy Shevchenko

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: aisheng.dong@nxp.com (A.S. Dong)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 6/6] tty: serial: lpuart: add a more accurate baud rate calculation method
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 14:20:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM3PR04MB30678CBD87777C6816DEFA580CE0@AM3PR04MB306.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHp75VcSToSfbUZ2TP0OsLRjV4TNpq7D_=4tnB_+rDvS2jp22Q@mail.gmail.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Shevchenko [mailto:andy.shevchenko at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 5:26 PM
> To: A.S. Dong
> Cc: linux-serial at vger.kernel.org; linux-kernel at vger.kernel.org; linux-arm
> Mailing List; Greg Kroah-Hartman; Jiri Slaby; Andy Duan; Stefan Agner;
> Mingkai Hu; Y.B. Lu; Dong Aisheng
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] tty: serial: lpuart: add a more accurate baud
> rate calculation method
> 
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 11:01 AM, A.S. Dong <aisheng.dong@nxp.com> wrote:
> 
> >> >> > +       u32 sbr, osr, baud_diff, tmp_osr, tmp_sbr, tmp_diff, tmp;
> >> >> > +       u32 clk = sport->port.uartclk;
> >> >> > +
> >> >> > +       /*
> >> >> > +        * The idea is to use the best OSR (over-sampling rate)
> >> possible.
> >> >> > +        * Note, OSR is typically hard-set to 16 in other LPUART
> >> >> instantiations.
> >> >> > +        * Loop to find the best OSR value possible, one that
> >> >> > + generates
> >> >> minimum
> >> >> > +        * baud_diff iterate through the rest of the supported
> >> >> > + values of
> >> >> OSR.
> >> >> > +        *
> >> >> > +        * Calculation Formula:
> >> >> > +        *  Baud Rate = baud clock / ((OSR+1) ? SBR)
> >> >> > +        */
> >> >> > +       baud_diff = baudrate;
> >> >> > +       osr = 0;
> >> >> > +       sbr = 0;
> >> >> > +
> >> >>
> >> >> > +       for (tmp_osr = 4; tmp_osr <= 32; tmp_osr++) {
> >>
> >> I missed one thing, what happened by default to OSR? What is the
> >> value in use?
> >>
> >
> > No valid default value. (osc/sbr are 0 by default) If no proper osc
> > and sbr calculated, a WARNING will show.
> 
> Okay, so, it means the maximum supported speed is UART clock / 4. Correct?
> 

Yes.

> >> So, the algo is the following:
> >>
> >> Assume the ranges like this:
> >> OSR = [4 ... 32]
> >> SBR = [2 ... 8192]
> >>
> >
> > Baud Rate = baud clock / ((OSR+1) ? SBR)
> >
> > In HW:
> > OSR range : 3 ? 31
> > SBR range: 1 ? 8191
> 
> I've read that, but think outside the box.
> 
> >> Then:
> >>
> >> 1. Get ratio factor as
> >>       ratio = CLK / desired baud rate 2. If ratio < 8192 * 9 / 2,
> >> just use (ratio / 4, 4) as (OSR, SBR) setting.
> >> (Needs clarification on OSR < 4)
> >
> > Sorry that I'm a bit mess here.
> > What is 8192 * 9 /2 meaning?
> 
> I forgot the details...
> 
> > And for (ratio / 4, 4) as (OSR,SBR), take 115200 as an example:
> > Assuming baud clock 24Mhz.
> >
> > Ratio = 24000000 / 115200 = 208
> > OSR = Ratio / 4 = 52
> > Then OSR is out of range which seems wrong.
> 
> ...yes...
> 
> >> 3. if ratio >= 8192 * 31, just use those two numbers (8192, 31). You
> >> can't do anything better there.
> >
> > This actually may not happen.
> > Even take a 9600 as example, the clk becomes:
> > 8191 * 31 * 9600 = 2.4GHz
> > Which is theoretically not exist.
> >
> >> 4. Otherwise, get a minimum required factor of OSR
> >>       osr_min = ratio / 8192
> >> 5. Start your loop from osr_min + 1 to 31.
> >>
> >> 6 (optional). Of course you may not consider baud_diff > osr_min,
> >> it's I suppose obvious
> >>
> >> P.S. Note, all divisions by 2^n are just simple right shifts. Diffs
> >> are calculated as multiplication of OSR and SBR in comparison to
> >> ratio. One division so far.
> 
> > I'm not quite understand the approach.
> 
> ...lemme prepare a python script demonstrating it.
> 

Great, thanks

> > How about you send a separate baud algorithm improvement patch later?
> 
> Why not to do it right a way?
> 

Because I thought that could be a separate patch which is doing algorithm
improvement, then we can have the full history and a clear comparison.

And also we are still not sure whether it works, we don't want to block on it
too long.

But if you're pretty sure about it, I would wait for some more time.

However, personally I would still rather keep them in two separate Patches
for clearer history and comparison.

> Just describe it in a comment if you afraid of reader can't understand
> from the code.
> 

That is good.

Regards
Dong Aisheng

> --
> With Best Regards,
> Andy Shevchenko

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-09 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-09  7:50 [PATCH 0/6] tty: serial: lpuart: add imx7ulp support Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50 ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50 ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50 ` [PATCH 1/6] tty: serial: lpuart: introduce lpuart_soc_data to represent SoC property Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50   ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50   ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-10  3:50   ` Stefan Agner
2017-05-10  3:50     ` Stefan Agner
2017-05-10  6:06     ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-10  6:06       ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-10  6:06       ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50 ` [PATCH 2/6] tty: serial: lpuart: add little endian 32 bit register support Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50   ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50   ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-10  3:58   ` Stefan Agner
2017-05-10  3:58     ` Stefan Agner
2017-05-10  6:19     ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-10  6:19       ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-10  6:19       ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50 ` [PATCH 3/6] dt-bindings: serial: fsl-lpuart: add i.MX7ULP support Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50   ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50   ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-12 20:12   ` Rob Herring
2017-05-12 20:12     ` Rob Herring
2017-05-12 20:12     ` Rob Herring
2017-05-09  7:50 ` [PATCH 4/6] tty: serial: lpuart: add imx7ulp support Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50   ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50   ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-10  4:10   ` Stefan Agner
2017-05-10  4:10     ` Stefan Agner
2017-05-10  6:14     ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-10  6:14       ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-10  6:14       ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-10 20:37       ` Stefan Agner
2017-05-10 20:37         ` Stefan Agner
2017-05-12 13:28         ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-12 13:28           ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50 ` [PATCH 5/6] tty: serial: lpuart: add earlycon support for imx7ulp Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50   ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50   ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50 ` [PATCH 6/6] tty: serial: lpuart: add a more accurate baud rate calculation method Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50   ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-09  7:50   ` Dong Aisheng
2017-05-28  0:04   ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-05-28  0:04     ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-05-31 14:18     ` A.S. Dong
2017-05-31 14:18       ` A.S. Dong
2017-06-02 17:11       ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-06-02 17:11         ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-06-09  8:01         ` A.S. Dong
2017-06-09  8:01           ` A.S. Dong
2017-06-09  9:26           ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-06-09  9:26             ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-06-09 14:20             ` A.S. Dong [this message]
2017-06-09 14:20               ` A.S. Dong
2017-06-09 15:48               ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-06-09 15:48                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2017-06-12 14:23                 ` A.S. Dong
2017-06-12 14:23                   ` A.S. Dong
2017-05-09 11:13 ` [PATCH 0/6] tty: serial: lpuart: add imx7ulp support Andy Duan
2017-05-09 11:13   ` Andy Duan
2017-05-09 11:13   ` Andy Duan

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