From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC] fs: add userspace critical mounts event support
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:32:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFw01BW2_etsPJGMRY=3BXdo_+g9+c_vRCW59gRpj9GVsw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160906174630.GB15161@tuxbot>
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Bjorn Andersson
<bjorn.andersson@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> Linus, I reversed the order of your questions/answers to fit my answer
> better.
Nobody has actually answered the "why don't we just tie the firmware
and module together" question.
Really. If the driver doesn't work without the firmware, then why the
hell is it separated from it in the first place?
The hack is a hack, and it just sounds *stupid*.
Linus
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Roman Pen <r.peniaev@gmail.com>,
Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.com>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Vikram Mulukutla <markivx@codeaurora.org>,
Stephen Boyd <stephen.boyd@linaro.org>,
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
Christian Lamparter <chunkeey@googlemail.com>,
Hauke Mehrtens <hauke@hauke-m.de>,
Josh Boyer <jwboyer@fedoraproject.org>,
Dmitry
Subject: Re: [RFC] fs: add userspace critical mounts event support
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 11:32:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFw01BW2_etsPJGMRY=3BXdo_+g9+c_vRCW59gRpj9GVsw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160906174630.GB15161@tuxbot>
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Bjorn Andersson
<bjorn.andersson@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> Linus, I reversed the order of your questions/answers to fit my answer
> better.
Nobody has actually answered the "why don't we just tie the firmware
and module together" question.
Really. If the driver doesn't work without the firmware, then why the
hell is it separated from it in the first place?
The hack is a hack, and it just sounds *stupid*.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-06 18:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-06-16 22:54 [PATCH v2 0/5] firmware: add SmPL grammar to avoid issues Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-16 22:54 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] MAINTAINERS: extend firmware_class maintainer list Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-16 22:54 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] firmware: annotate thou shalt not request fw on init or probe Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-16 22:54 ` [Cocci] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-16 22:54 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-24 6:55 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-24 6:55 ` [Cocci] " Daniel Vetter
2016-08-24 6:55 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-24 20:39 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-24 20:39 ` [Cocci] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-24 20:39 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-25 11:05 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-25 11:05 ` [Cocci] " Daniel Vetter
2016-08-25 11:05 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-25 19:41 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-25 19:41 ` [Cocci] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-25 19:41 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-25 20:10 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-25 20:10 ` [Cocci] " Daniel Vetter
2016-08-25 20:10 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-08-25 20:25 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-25 20:25 ` [Cocci] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-25 20:25 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-25 20:30 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-08-25 20:30 ` [Cocci] " Dmitry Torokhov
2016-08-25 20:30 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-09-02 23:59 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-02 23:59 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-03 0:20 ` [RFC] fs: add userspace critical mounts event support Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-03 0:20 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-03 4:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-03 4:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-03 4:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-09-03 4:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-09-03 4:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-03 4:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-03 17:49 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-09-03 17:49 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-09-03 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-03 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-03 18:10 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-09-03 18:10 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-09-06 21:52 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-06 21:52 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-06 22:28 ` Bjorn Andersson
2016-09-06 22:28 ` Bjorn Andersson
2016-09-06 23:14 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-06 23:14 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-24 1:37 ` Herbert, Marc
2016-09-24 1:37 ` Herbert, Marc
2016-09-24 1:37 ` Herbert, Marc
2016-09-24 1:37 ` Herbert, Marc
2016-09-24 17:41 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-09-24 17:41 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-10-05 0:00 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-10-05 0:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-05 0:24 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-10-05 0:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-05 17:38 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-10-05 1:48 ` Josh Triplett
2016-10-05 1:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-06 17:46 ` Bjorn Andersson
2016-09-06 17:46 ` Bjorn Andersson
2016-09-06 18:32 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2016-09-06 18:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-06 21:11 ` Bjorn Andersson
2016-09-06 21:11 ` Bjorn Andersson
2016-09-06 21:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-06 21:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-06 23:04 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-06 23:04 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-24 2:51 ` Herbert, Marc
2016-10-04 23:28 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-06 22:32 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-06 22:32 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-14 2:38 ` Rob Landley
2016-09-14 2:38 ` Rob Landley
2016-10-05 18:00 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-10-05 18:00 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-10-05 18:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-05 18:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-05 19:46 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-10-05 19:46 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-08 22:47 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-08 22:47 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-09 9:13 ` Daniel Wagner
2016-11-09 9:13 ` Daniel Wagner
2016-11-09 11:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-09 11:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-11-09 23:53 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-09 23:53 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-29 21:54 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-29 21:54 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-09 23:40 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-09 23:40 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-15 9:28 ` Johannes Berg
2016-11-15 9:28 ` Johannes Berg
2016-11-15 9:28 ` Johannes Berg
2016-11-29 21:10 ` Tom Gundersen
2016-11-29 21:10 ` Tom Gundersen
2016-11-29 21:37 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-29 21:37 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-30 8:18 ` Johannes Berg
2016-11-30 8:18 ` Johannes Berg
2016-06-16 22:54 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] firmware: update usermode helper docs and add SmPL report Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-16 22:54 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] firmware: add usermode helper DECLARE_FW_LOADER_USER() annotation Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-16 22:54 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] firmware: fix fw cache to avoid usermode helper on suspend Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-07 0:56 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] firmware: add SmPL grammar to avoid issues Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-13 21:47 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-28 0:41 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-03 14:50 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-03 15:04 ` Greg KH
2016-08-03 17:06 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-03 19:32 ` Greg KH
2016-08-03 19:46 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-13 23:52 ` Fengguang Wu
2016-07-14 2:15 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-14 2:23 ` Fengguang Wu
2016-07-14 3:08 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-14 3:35 ` Fengguang Wu
2016-08-24 0:45 ` [PATCH v3 " mcgrof
2016-08-24 0:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] MAINTAINERS: extend firmware_class maintainer list mcgrof
2016-08-24 0:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] firmware: annotate thou shalt not request fw on init or probe mcgrof
2016-08-24 0:45 ` [Cocci] " mcgrof at kernel.org
2016-08-24 0:45 ` mcgrof
2016-08-24 8:17 ` Gabriel Paubert
2016-08-24 8:17 ` [Cocci] " Gabriel Paubert
2016-08-24 8:17 ` Gabriel Paubert
2016-09-02 18:26 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-02 18:26 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-24 0:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] firmware: update usermode helper docs and add SmPL report mcgrof
2016-08-24 0:45 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] firmware: add usermode helper DECLARE_FW_LOADER_USER() annotation mcgrof
2016-08-24 0:45 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] firmware: fix fw cache to avoid usermode helper on suspend mcgrof
2016-08-31 7:03 ` Daniel Wagner
2016-09-02 18:13 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-07 0:42 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] firmware: add SmPL grammar to avoid issues Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-07 0:42 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] MAINTAINERS: extend firmware_class maintainer list Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-07 6:43 ` Greg KH
2016-09-08 14:58 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-08 15:25 ` Ming Lei
2016-09-07 0:42 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] firmware: annotate thou shalt not request fw on init or probe Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-07 0:42 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-07 0:42 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] firmware: update usermode helper docs and add SmPL report Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-07 0:42 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] firmware: add usermode helper DECLARE_FW_LOADER_USER() annotation Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-09-07 0:42 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] firmware: fix fw cache to avoid usermode helper on suspend Luis R. Rodriguez
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