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From: Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@gmail.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@loongson.cn>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Xuefeng Li <lixuefeng@loongson.cn>,
	Jiaxun Yang <jiaxun.yang@flygoat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/19] LoongArch: Add misc common routines
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2021 20:53:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAhV-H4r1hUOxFek8_tKTO8kKfiTyzxi0QpqEn67=O_f2SxYJQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a02R988LdN4Cshhp=sAnwKS+GOwwWwRfvprm36eTb2YqQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, Arnd,

On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 7:43 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 12:41 PM Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 6:22 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 6:18 AM Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@loongson.cn> wrote:
> > > > +static inline unsigned long __cmpxchg(volatile void *ptr, unsigned long old,
> > > > +                                     unsigned long new, unsigned int size)
> > > > +{
> > > > +       switch (size) {
> > > > +       case 1:
> > > > +       case 2:
> > > > +               return __cmpxchg_small(ptr, old, new, size);
> > >
> > > Same here.
> >
> > 16bit cmpxchg is used by qspinlock. Yes, you suggest we should not use
> > qspinlock, but our test results show that ticket spinlock is even
> > worse... So, we want to keep cmpxchg_small() and qspinlock.
>
> Can you explain in detail how that cmpxchg loop provides the necessary
> forward progress guarantees to make qspinlock reliable?
>
> As Peter keeps pointing out, usually this is not actually the case, so
> faster-but-broken is not a replacement for a simple working version.
>
> If you already have the ticket spinlock implementation, maybe start out
> by using that for the initial submission, and then provide an extra
> patch to convert it to qspinlock as a follow-up that can be debated
> in more detail regarding correctness and performance.
After reading the existing topics on qspinlock from mail list, I have
done an offline discussion with Jiaxun Yang and Rui Wang. Then we
think that if we use the _Q_PENDING_BITS=1 definition, those archs
without sub-word xchg/cmpxchg can use qspinlock as well. Plese see my
RFC patches:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arch/20210724123617.3525377-1-chenhuacai@loongson.cn/T/#t

Huacai
>
> > > > +static inline void __iomem *ioremap_prot(phys_addr_t offset, unsigned long size,
> > > > +       unsigned long prot_val)
> > > > +{
> > > > +       /* This only works for !HIGHMEM currently */
> > >
> > > Do you support highmem? I would expect new architectures to no longer
> > > implement that. Just use a 64-bit kernel on systems with lots of ram.
> >
> > Emmm, 64-bit kernel doesn't need highmem.
>
> Yes, that was my point: 32-bit user space is fine if you care a lot about
> size constraints of DDR2 or older memory. For any system that has
> enough memory to require highmem, it is better to just pick a 64-bit
> kernel to start with, if the CPU allows it.
>
> > > > +#define ioremap(offset, size)                                  \
> > > > +       ioremap_prot((offset), (size), _CACHE_SUC)
> > > > +#define ioremap_uc ioremap
> > >
> > > Remove ioremap_uc(), it should never be called here.
> > It is used by lib/devres.c.
>
> There is a default implementation in include/asm-generic/io.h
> that just returns NULL here.
>
> > > > +#define __BUILD_MEMORY_SINGLE(pfx, bwlq, type)                         \
> > > > +                                                                       \
> > > > +static inline void pfx##write##bwlq(type val,                          \
> > > > +                                   volatile void __iomem *mem)         \
> > > > +{                                                                      \
> > >
> > > Please don't add another copy of these macros. Use the version from
> > > include/asm-generic, or modify it as needed if it doesn't quite work.
> >
> > On Loongson platform, we should put a wmb() before MMIO write. The
> > generic readw()/readl()/outw()/outl() have wmb(), but the __raw
> > versions don't have. I want to know what is the design goal of the
> > __raw version, are they supposed to be used in scenarios that the
> > ordering needn't be cared?
>
> The __raw versions are mainly meant for accessing memory from
> platform specific driver code. They don't provide any particular
> endianness or ordering guarantees and generally cannot be used
> in portable drivers.
>
> Note that a full wmb() should not be needed, you only have to serialize
> between prior memory accesses and a DMA triggered by the device,
> but not between multiple CPUs here.
>
>       Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-24 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-06  4:18 [PATCH 00/19] arch: Add basic LoongArch support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 01/19] LoongArch: Add elf-related definitions Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 02/19] LoongArch: Add writecombine support for drm Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 03/19] LoongArch: Add build infrastructure Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:12   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-19  1:26     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-19  7:43       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-19 13:02         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  0:00   ` Randy Dunlap
2021-07-19  1:28     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 05/19] LoongArch: Add boot and setup routines Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-27 11:53     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-27 12:40       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-27 12:51         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-07-27 13:14           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-27 16:22             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-07-27 17:53               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-28 10:24                 ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:55   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 06/19] LoongArch: Add exception/interrupt handling Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:56     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-07 13:56     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-07-27 14:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-27 15:08         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-28 10:16           ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-28 12:23             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 07/19] LoongArch: Add process management Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:57     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-12 11:17       ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 12:51           ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 08/19] LoongArch: Add memory management Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:57     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:20     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-16  1:57   ` Guo Ren
2021-08-16  3:31     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 09/19] LoongArch: Add system call support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:58     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  4:24     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-07  6:44       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  7:00         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-09  8:44         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 13:51   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-07  4:27     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:40     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 10/19] LoongArch: Add signal handling support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:59     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-08 13:04     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-08 13:23       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-09  9:24         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-09 10:22           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-09 14:49             ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-09 15:59               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-26 16:43   ` Xi Ruoyao
2021-08-27  4:23     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-27  4:27       ` Xi Ruoyao
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 11/19] LoongArch: Add elf and module support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 12/19] LoongArch: Add misc common routines Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-23 10:41     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-23 11:43       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-24 12:53         ` Huacai Chen [this message]
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 13/19] LoongArch: Add some library functions Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:22     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 14/19] LoongArch: Add 64-bit Loongson platform Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 15/19] LoongArch: Add PCI controller support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:01     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:29     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 16/19] LoongArch: Add VDSO and VSYSCALL support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:02     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:31     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 17/19] LoongArch: Add multi-processor (SMP) support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-12 11:39     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 11:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 13:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-12 11:41     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 13:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 18/19] LoongArch: Add Non-Uniform Memory Access (NUMA) support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:46     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:48       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 19/19] LoongArch: Add Loongson-3 default config file Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:04     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:58     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:50       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:11 ` [PATCH 00/19] arch: Add basic LoongArch support Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  3:04   ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-07  7:28     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-29 16:48       ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-30 20:50         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found] ` <20210706041820.1536502-5-chenhuacai@loongson.cn>
2021-07-06 10:16   ` [PATCH 04/19] LoongArch: Add common headers Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:05     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:45       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-13  3:30         ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-13  7:05           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-13  8:14             ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-13  9:08               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-14  2:50                 ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-15  8:56                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-16  4:10                     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-18  9:38                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-20  4:00                         ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-20  7:55                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-21  8:16                             ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:54   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 11:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 12:59     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 13:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 13:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 11:59   ` Peter Zijlstra

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