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From: Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@gmail.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@loongson.cn>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Xuefeng Li <lixuefeng@loongson.cn>,
	Jiaxun Yang <jiaxun.yang@flygoat.com>,
	Chen Zhu <zhuchen@loongson.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/19] arch: Add basic LoongArch support
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 00:48:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAhV-H7BYczyM4Eor5T2i9M5j-xRumQwKmb9T+UH+eHt9QY58A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a2a8R+pMZykCP5zFCPUzRqdPiBpJuCkmQdMuzL+34DFuw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, Arnd,

On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 3:28 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 5:04 AM Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 6:12 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > > 3. 32-bit support: There are small bits of code for 32-bit support everywhere
> > >    throughout the code base, but there is also code that does not look like
> > >    it would work in that configuration. I would suggest you split out all 32-bit
> > >    code into a separate patch, the way you have done for SMP and NUMA
> > >    support. That way it can be reviewed separately, or deferred until when
> > >    you actually add support for a 32-bit platform. Please also clarify which
> > >    modes you plan to support: should every 64-bit kernel be able to run
> > >    LA32R and LA32S user space binaries, or do you require running the same
> > >    instruction set in both kernel and user space as RISC-V does?
> > >    Do you plan to have MIPS N32 style user space on 64-bit kernels?
> > No N32 style user space in our current plan, but the 64-bit kernel is
> > supposed to run 32-bit applications in the near future.
>
> Ok, sounds good. Adding compat support for a native 32-bit ABI has gotten
> a lot easier over time.
>
> On that note, what are the requirements to the kernel for supporting LBT
> with aarch64/mips/x86 tasks? Does this involve handling the system calls
> (ioctl in particular) for those architectures in the kernel as well, or do you
> expect this to be done entirely in user space?
>
> The same topic has come up in the past, as there are at least three projects
> that need support for emulating foreign-architecture system calls (qemu,
> fex and tango). If there is sufficient demand, we may end up generalizing the
> kernel's compat layer to support multiple such ABIs instead of just native
> and compat.
>
> > > 4. Toolchain sources: I see you only have binaries for an older gcc-8.3
> > >     release and no sources so far. I assume you are already busy porting
> > >     the internal patches to the latest gcc and will post that soon, but my
> > >     feeling is that the kernel port should not get merged until we have a
> > >     confirmation from the toolchain maintainers that they plan to merge
> > >     support for their following release. We should however make sure that
> > >     your kernel port is completely reviewed and can just get merged once
> > >     we get there.
> >
> > Toolchain is maintained by other developers, it will be open source of
> > course, I hope it won't be too late. :)
>
> Right, I meant 'you' as in someone @loongson.cn, not necessarily you
> personally.
Now toolchain of LoongArch is open, please take a look at it. I think
there are also something need to change. In order to reduce
compatiability problems in future, please focus on those things
interactive with Linux kernel. Thank you very much!

https://github.com/loongson/glibc/tree/loongarch_2_33
https://github.com/loongson/binutils-gdb/tree/loongarch-2_37
https://github.com/loongson/gcc/tree/loongarch-12

Huacai

>
> > > 5. Platform support: You have copied the underlying logic from arch/mips,
> > >     but that still uses a method where most platforms (not the new
> > >     "generic" version) are mutually exclusive. Since you only support
> > >     one platform right now, it would be best to just simplify it to the point
> > >     where no platform specific code is needed in arch/loongarch/ and
> > >     it just works. If you add 32-bit support later on, that obviously requires
> > >     making a choice between two or three incompatible options.
> >
> > I will improve it, and I will need some help for this.
>
> It should be mostly covered by the comments I made on the individual
> comments already, but let me know if you have more specific questions.
>
>        Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-29 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-06  4:18 [PATCH 00/19] arch: Add basic LoongArch support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 01/19] LoongArch: Add elf-related definitions Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 02/19] LoongArch: Add writecombine support for drm Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 03/19] LoongArch: Add build infrastructure Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:12   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-19  1:26     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-19  7:43       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-19 13:02         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  0:00   ` Randy Dunlap
2021-07-19  1:28     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 05/19] LoongArch: Add boot and setup routines Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-27 11:53     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-27 12:40       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-27 12:51         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-07-27 13:14           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-27 16:22             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-07-27 17:53               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-28 10:24                 ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:55   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 06/19] LoongArch: Add exception/interrupt handling Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:56     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-07 13:56     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-07-27 14:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-27 15:08         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-28 10:16           ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-28 12:23             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 07/19] LoongArch: Add process management Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:57     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-12 11:17       ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 12:51           ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 08/19] LoongArch: Add memory management Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:57     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:20     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-16  1:57   ` Guo Ren
2021-08-16  3:31     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 09/19] LoongArch: Add system call support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:58     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  4:24     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-07  6:44       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  7:00         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-09  8:44         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 13:51   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-07  4:27     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:40     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 10/19] LoongArch: Add signal handling support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:59     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-08 13:04     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-08 13:23       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-09  9:24         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-09 10:22           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-09 14:49             ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-09 15:59               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-26 16:43   ` Xi Ruoyao
2021-08-27  4:23     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-27  4:27       ` Xi Ruoyao
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 11/19] LoongArch: Add elf and module support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 12/19] LoongArch: Add misc common routines Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-23 10:41     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-23 11:43       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-24 12:53         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 13/19] LoongArch: Add some library functions Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:22     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 14/19] LoongArch: Add 64-bit Loongson platform Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 15/19] LoongArch: Add PCI controller support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:01     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:29     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 16/19] LoongArch: Add VDSO and VSYSCALL support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:02     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:31     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 17/19] LoongArch: Add multi-processor (SMP) support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-12 11:39     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 11:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 13:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-12 11:41     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 13:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 18/19] LoongArch: Add Non-Uniform Memory Access (NUMA) support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:46     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:48       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 19/19] LoongArch: Add Loongson-3 default config file Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:04     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:58     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:50       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:11 ` [PATCH 00/19] arch: Add basic LoongArch support Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  3:04   ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-07  7:28     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-29 16:48       ` Huacai Chen [this message]
2021-07-30 20:50         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found] ` <20210706041820.1536502-5-chenhuacai@loongson.cn>
2021-07-06 10:16   ` [PATCH 04/19] LoongArch: Add common headers Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:05     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:45       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-13  3:30         ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-13  7:05           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-13  8:14             ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-13  9:08               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-14  2:50                 ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-15  8:56                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-16  4:10                     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-18  9:38                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-20  4:00                         ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-20  7:55                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-21  8:16                             ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:54   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 11:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 12:59     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 13:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 13:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 11:59   ` Peter Zijlstra

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