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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@gmail.com>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@loongson.cn>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Xuefeng Li <lixuefeng@loongson.cn>,
	Jiaxun Yang <jiaxun.yang@flygoat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/19] LoongArch: Add boot and setup routines
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 19:53:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a0zYMrZ7muts2sR==_Ca=Vx-MjOQXmzteAcj6Oqmtiufw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXGUfAZ79N7Xtsyh3P+HubVhgLgnrBuJT1U3z80z569uag@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 6:22 PM Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 at 15:14, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 2:51 PM Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 at 14:41, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 1:53 PM Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > How is other information passed from grub to the efi stub
> > and from there to the kernel on loongarch?
>
> I don't think this architecture boots via EFI at all - it looks like a
> data structure is created in memory that looks like an EFI system
> table, and provided to the kernel proper without going through the
> stub. This is not surprising, given that the stub turns the kernel
> into a PE/COFF executable, and the PE/COFF spec nor the EFI spec
> support the LoongSon architecture.

A lot of upstream projects are still missing loongarch support completely.
I already pointed out the lack of kernel support when the musl and
qemu patches got posted first, and the lack of toolchain support for the
kernel, so it's possible this one is just another missing dependency that
they plan to post later but really should have sooner.

> This is problematic from a maintenance point of view, given that the
> interface between the kernel proper and the EFI stub is being promoted
> from an internal interface that we can freely modify to one that needs
> to remain stable for compatibility of new kernels with older firmware.
> I don't think we should be going down this path tbh.

Agreed. Having a reliable boot interface is definitely important here,
and copying from arch/mips was probably not the best choice in this
regard. They can probably look at what was needed for RISC-V to
add this properly, as that was done fairly recently.

        Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-27 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-06  4:18 [PATCH 00/19] arch: Add basic LoongArch support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 01/19] LoongArch: Add elf-related definitions Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 02/19] LoongArch: Add writecombine support for drm Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 03/19] LoongArch: Add build infrastructure Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:12   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-19  1:26     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-19  7:43       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-19 13:02         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  0:00   ` Randy Dunlap
2021-07-19  1:28     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 05/19] LoongArch: Add boot and setup routines Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-27 11:53     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-27 12:40       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-27 12:51         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-07-27 13:14           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-27 16:22             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-07-27 17:53               ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2021-07-28 10:24                 ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:55   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 06/19] LoongArch: Add exception/interrupt handling Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:56     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-07 13:56     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-07-27 14:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-27 15:08         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-28 10:16           ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-28 12:23             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 07/19] LoongArch: Add process management Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:57     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-12 11:17       ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 12:51           ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 08/19] LoongArch: Add memory management Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:57     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:20     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-16  1:57   ` Guo Ren
2021-08-16  3:31     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 09/19] LoongArch: Add system call support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:58     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  4:24     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-07  6:44       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  7:00         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-09  8:44         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 13:51   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-07  4:27     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:40     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 10/19] LoongArch: Add signal handling support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:59     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-08 13:04     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-08 13:23       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-09  9:24         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-09 10:22           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-09 14:49             ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-09 15:59               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-26 16:43   ` Xi Ruoyao
2021-08-27  4:23     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-27  4:27       ` Xi Ruoyao
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 11/19] LoongArch: Add elf and module support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 12/19] LoongArch: Add misc common routines Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-23 10:41     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-23 11:43       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-24 12:53         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 13/19] LoongArch: Add some library functions Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:22     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 14/19] LoongArch: Add 64-bit Loongson platform Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 15/19] LoongArch: Add PCI controller support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:01     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:29     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 16/19] LoongArch: Add VDSO and VSYSCALL support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:02     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:31     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 17/19] LoongArch: Add multi-processor (SMP) support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-12 11:39     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 11:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 13:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-12 11:41     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 13:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 18/19] LoongArch: Add Non-Uniform Memory Access (NUMA) support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:46     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:48       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 19/19] LoongArch: Add Loongson-3 default config file Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:04     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:58     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:50       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:11 ` [PATCH 00/19] arch: Add basic LoongArch support Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  3:04   ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-07  7:28     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-29 16:48       ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-30 20:50         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found] ` <20210706041820.1536502-5-chenhuacai@loongson.cn>
2021-07-06 10:16   ` [PATCH 04/19] LoongArch: Add common headers Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:05     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:45       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-13  3:30         ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-13  7:05           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-13  8:14             ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-13  9:08               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-14  2:50                 ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-15  8:56                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-16  4:10                     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-18  9:38                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-20  4:00                         ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-20  7:55                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-21  8:16                             ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:54   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 11:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 12:59     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 13:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 13:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 11:59   ` Peter Zijlstra

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