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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@gmail.com>,
	yili0568@gmail.com, Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@loongson.cn>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Xuefeng Li <lixuefeng@loongson.cn>,
	Jiaxun Yang <jiaxun.yang@flygoat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/19] LoongArch: Add signal handling support
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 17:59:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a1Dp7kiAqJJjTN_dxX_P-VO8+4Macrw3w-E-fGfU-XejQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875yxjee55.fsf@disp2133>

On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 4:49 PM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
> Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> writes:
> > On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 11:24 AM Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 9:30 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> > Most such system calls currently go through set_user_sigmask or
> > set_compat_user_sigmask, which only differ on big-endian.
> > I would actually like to see these merged together and have a single
> > helper checking for in_compat_syscall() to decide whether to do
> > the word-swap for 32-bit bit-endian tasks or not, but that's a separate
> > discussion (and I suspect that Eric won't like that version, based on
> > other discussions we've had).
>
> Reading through get_compat_sigset is the best argument I have ever seen
> for getting rid of big endian architectures.  My gut reaction is we
> should just sweep all of the big endian craziness into a corner and let
> it disappear as the big endian architectures are retired.

A nice thought, but not going to happen any time soon as long as IBM
makes money from s390.

> Perhaps we generalize the non-compat version of the system calls and
> only have a compat version of the system call for the big endian
> architectures.
>
> I really hope loongarch and any new architectures added to the tree all
> are little endian.

It is. Most of the architectures merged over the last years only support
little-endian kernels, even those that can theoretically do both in hardware
(c-sky, riscv). arm64 and arc support big-endian in theory, but this is
rarely used.

Most of the server and workstation class hardware from the last
century is big-endian though. OpenRISC was the last architecture
we support that is big-endian only, but this was designed 21 years
ago now.

> > What I think you need for loongarch though is to change
> > set_user_sigmask(), get_compat_sigset() and similar functions to
> > behave differently depending on the user space execution context,
> > converting the 64-bit masks for loongarch/x86/arm64 tasks into
> > 128-bit in-kernel masks, while copying the 128-bit mips masks
> > as-is. This also requires changing the sigset_t and _NSIG
> > definitions so you get a 64-bit mask in user space, but a 128-bit
> > mask in kernel space.
> >
> > There are multiple ways of achieving this, either by generalizing
> > the common code, or by providing an architecture specific
> > implementation to replace it for loongarch only. I think you need to
> > try out which of those is the most maintainable.
>
> I believe all of the modern versions of the system calls that
> take a sigset_t in the kernel also take a sigsetsize.  So the most
> straight forward thing to do is to carefully define what happens
> to sigsets that are too big or too small when set.
>
> Something like defining that if a sigset is larger than the kernel's
> sigset size all of the additional bits must be zero, and if the sigset
> is smaller than the kernel's sigset size all of the missing bits
> will be set to zero in the kernel's sigset_t.  There may be cases
> I am missing bug for SIG_SETMASK, SIG_BLOCK, and SIG_UNBLOCK those
> look like the correct definitions.

Right, that would work as well. It is a change in behavior though,
since currently kernels just reject any non-default sigsetsize, and there
is a chance that this causes problems when some project relies on
being able to pass an arbitrary sigsetsize value, and then someone
tries running this on an older kernel.

> Another option would be to simply have whatever translates the system
> calls in userspace to perform the work of verifying the extra bits in
> the bitmap are unused before calling system calls that take a sigset_t
> and just ignoring the extra bits.

This is why I asked about how the current loongarch code does it.
qemu must already be doing something like this to run mips code on
non-mips architectures or vice-versa. FEX is another project doing
this, but they also want to add support for foreign syscalls (x86 on
arm64 mainly).

Based on previous discussions, I can see us coming up with a more
general way to handle ioctl() commands using some lookup table
to decide which commands need what kind of translation (32-bit
compat, foreign architecture, usercopy, ...). This needs some more
planning and discussion, but if we end up doing it, it would be
plausible to have a more general way for dealing with more than two
ABIs in a syscall.

       Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-09 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-06  4:18 [PATCH 00/19] arch: Add basic LoongArch support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 01/19] LoongArch: Add elf-related definitions Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 02/19] LoongArch: Add writecombine support for drm Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 03/19] LoongArch: Add build infrastructure Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:12   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-19  1:26     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-19  7:43       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-19 13:02         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  0:00   ` Randy Dunlap
2021-07-19  1:28     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 05/19] LoongArch: Add boot and setup routines Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-27 11:53     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-27 12:40       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-27 12:51         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-07-27 13:14           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-27 16:22             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-07-27 17:53               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-28 10:24                 ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:55   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 06/19] LoongArch: Add exception/interrupt handling Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:56     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-07 13:56     ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-07-27 14:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-27 15:08         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-28 10:16           ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-28 12:23             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 07/19] LoongArch: Add process management Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:57     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-12 11:17       ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:29         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 12:51           ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 08/19] LoongArch: Add memory management Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:57     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:20     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-16  1:57   ` Guo Ren
2021-08-16  3:31     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 09/19] LoongArch: Add system call support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:58     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  4:24     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-07  6:44       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  7:00         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-09  8:44         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 13:51   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-07-07  4:27     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:40     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 10/19] LoongArch: Add signal handling support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:59     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-08 13:04     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-08 13:23       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-09  9:24         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-09 10:22           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-09 14:49             ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-07-09 15:59               ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2021-08-26 16:43   ` Xi Ruoyao
2021-08-27  4:23     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-27  4:27       ` Xi Ruoyao
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 11/19] LoongArch: Add elf and module support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 12/19] LoongArch: Add misc common routines Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-23 10:41     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-23 11:43       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-24 12:53         ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 13/19] LoongArch: Add some library functions Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:22     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 14/19] LoongArch: Add 64-bit Loongson platform Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 15/19] LoongArch: Add PCI controller support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:01     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:29     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 16/19] LoongArch: Add VDSO and VSYSCALL support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:02     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:31     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 17/19] LoongArch: Add multi-processor (SMP) support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:17   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-12 11:39     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 11:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 13:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-08-12 11:41     ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 13:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 18/19] LoongArch: Add Non-Uniform Memory Access (NUMA) support Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:46     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:48       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06  4:18 ` [PATCH 19/19] LoongArch: Add Loongson-3 default config file Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 11:04     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:58     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:50       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:11 ` [PATCH 00/19] arch: Add basic LoongArch support Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-07  3:04   ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-07  7:28     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-29 16:48       ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-30 20:50         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found] ` <20210706041820.1536502-5-chenhuacai@loongson.cn>
2021-07-06 10:16   ` [PATCH 04/19] LoongArch: Add common headers Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-12 11:05     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-12 12:45       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-13  3:30         ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-13  7:05           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-13  8:14             ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-13  9:08               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-14  2:50                 ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-15  8:56                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-16  4:10                     ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-18  9:38                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-20  4:00                         ` Huacai Chen
2021-08-20  7:55                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-08-21  8:16                             ` Huacai Chen
2021-07-06 10:54   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 10:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 11:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 12:59     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-07-06 13:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 13:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-07-06 11:59   ` Peter Zijlstra

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