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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC 0/6] Regressions for "imply" behavior change
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 09:20:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a3Wx5_bUOKnN3_hG5nLOqv3WCUtMSq6vOkJzWZgsmAz+A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <834c7606743424c64951dd2193ca15e29799bf18.camel@mellanox.com>

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 5:25 AM Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2020-04-14 at 20:47 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 7:49 PM Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com>
> > wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2020-04-14 at 17:25 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 5:23 PM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Correct.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Great !
> > >
> > > Then bottom line we will change mlx5/Kconfig: to
> > >
> > > depends on VXLAN || !VXLAN
> >
> > Ok
> >
>
> BTW how about adding a new Kconfig option to hide the details of
> ( BAR || !BAR) ? as Jason already explained and suggested, this will
> make it easier for the users and developers to understand the actual
> meaning behind this tristate weird condition.
>
> e.g have a new keyword:
>      reach VXLAN
> which will be equivalent to:
>      depends on VXLAN && !VXLAN

I'd love to see that, but I'm not sure what keyword is best. For your
suggestion of "reach", that would probably do the job, but I'm not
sure if this ends up being more or less confusing than what we have
today.

> > > This will force MLX5_CORE to m when necessary to make vxlan
> > > reachable
> > > to mlx5_core.  So no need for explicit use of IS_REACHABLE().
> > > in mlx5 there are 4 of these:
> > >
> > >         imply PTP_1588_CLOCK
> > >         imply VXLAN
> > >         imply MLXFW
> > >         imply PCI_HYPERV_INTERFACE
> >
> > As mentioned earlier, we do need to replace the 'imply
> > PTP_1588_CLOCK'
> > with the same
> >
> >          depends on PTP_1588_CLOCK || !PTP_1588_CLOCK
> >
> > So far I have not seen problems for the other two options, so I
> > assume they
> > are fine for now -- it seems to build just fine without
> > PCI_HYPERV_INTERFACE,
> > and MLXFW has no other dependencies, meaning that 'imply' is the
> > same as 'select' here. Using 'select MLXFW' would make it clearer
> > perhaps.
>
> No, I would like to avoid select and allow building mlx5 without MLXFW,
> MLXFW already has a stub protected with IS_REACHABLE(), this is why we
> don't have an issue with it.

So the 'imply MLXFW' should be dropped then?

        Arnd

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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com>
Cc: "airlied@linux.ie" <airlied@linux.ie>,
	"jernej.skrabec@siol.net" <jernej.skrabec@siol.net>,
	"leon@kernel.org" <leon@kernel.org>,
	"narmstrong@baylibre.com" <narmstrong@baylibre.com>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"masahiroy@kernel.org" <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	"nico@fluxnic.net" <nico@fluxnic.net>,
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	<kieran.bingham+renesas@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com"
	<Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"jgg@ziepe.ca" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/6] Regressions for "imply" behavior change
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 09:20:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAK8P3a3Wx5_bUOKnN3_hG5nLOqv3WCUtMSq6vOkJzWZgsmAz+A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <834c7606743424c64951dd2193ca15e29799bf18.camel@mellanox.com>

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 5:25 AM Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2020-04-14 at 20:47 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 7:49 PM Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com>
> > wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2020-04-14 at 17:25 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 5:23 PM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Correct.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Great !
> > >
> > > Then bottom line we will change mlx5/Kconfig: to
> > >
> > > depends on VXLAN || !VXLAN
> >
> > Ok
> >
>
> BTW how about adding a new Kconfig option to hide the details of
> ( BAR || !BAR) ? as Jason already explained and suggested, this will
> make it easier for the users and developers to understand the actual
> meaning behind this tristate weird condition.
>
> e.g have a new keyword:
>      reach VXLAN
> which will be equivalent to:
>      depends on VXLAN && !VXLAN

I'd love to see that, but I'm not sure what keyword is best. For your
suggestion of "reach", that would probably do the job, but I'm not
sure if this ends up being more or less confusing than what we have
today.

> > > This will force MLX5_CORE to m when necessary to make vxlan
> > > reachable
> > > to mlx5_core.  So no need for explicit use of IS_REACHABLE().
> > > in mlx5 there are 4 of these:
> > >
> > >         imply PTP_1588_CLOCK
> > >         imply VXLAN
> > >         imply MLXFW
> > >         imply PCI_HYPERV_INTERFACE
> >
> > As mentioned earlier, we do need to replace the 'imply
> > PTP_1588_CLOCK'
> > with the same
> >
> >          depends on PTP_1588_CLOCK || !PTP_1588_CLOCK
> >
> > So far I have not seen problems for the other two options, so I
> > assume they
> > are fine for now -- it seems to build just fine without
> > PCI_HYPERV_INTERFACE,
> > and MLXFW has no other dependencies, meaning that 'imply' is the
> > same as 'select' here. Using 'select MLXFW' would make it clearer
> > perhaps.
>
> No, I would like to avoid select and allow building mlx5 without MLXFW,
> MLXFW already has a stub protected with IS_REACHABLE(), this is why we
> don't have an issue with it.

So the 'imply MLXFW' should be dropped then?

        Arnd
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Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-08 20:27 [RFC 0/6] Regressions for "imply" behavior change Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:27 ` [RFC 1/6] thunder: select PTP driver if possible Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:27 ` [RFC 2/6] net/mlx5e: fix VXLAN dependency Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:27 ` [RFC 3/6] LiquidIO VF: add dependency for PTP_1588_CLOCK Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 21:10   ` kbuild test robot
2020-04-08 21:13     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:27 ` [RFC 4/6] drm/bridge/sii8620: fix extcon dependency Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-10  6:56   ` Andrzej Hajda
2020-04-10  6:56     ` Andrzej Hajda
2020-04-14 15:04     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-14 15:04       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-14 15:37       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-14 15:37         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-15  6:58         ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-15  6:58           ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-08 20:27 ` [RFC 5/6] drm/rcar-du: fix selection of CMM driver Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-14 20:17   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-04-14 20:17     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-04-14 20:38     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-14 20:38       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-14 20:51       ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-04-14 20:51         ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-04-14 21:10         ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-14 21:10           ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-15 14:13           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-04-15 14:13             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-04-15 15:18             ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-15 15:18               ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-15 19:07               ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-15 19:07                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-15 21:12                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-04-15 21:12                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-04-15 21:22                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-15 21:22                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-16  6:51                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-16  6:51                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-16 15:17                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-04-16 15:17                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-04-08 20:27 ` [RFC 6/6] drm/rcar-du: fix lvds dependency Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:38 ` [RFC 0/6] Regressions for "imply" behavior change Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-08 20:38   ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-08 20:46   ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-08 20:46     ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-08 20:49   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 20:49     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-08 21:17     ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-08 21:17       ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-08 22:42     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-08 22:42       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-09  8:41       ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-09  8:41         ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-10  2:40         ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-10  2:40           ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-10  7:26           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-04-10  7:26             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-04-10 17:13           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-10 17:13             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-10 19:04             ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-10 19:04               ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-14 13:29               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-14 13:29                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-14 14:27                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-14 14:27                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-14 15:23                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-14 15:23                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-14 15:25                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-14 15:25                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-14 17:49                       ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-14 17:49                         ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-14 18:47                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-14 18:47                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-16  3:25                           ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-16  3:25                             ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-16  7:20                             ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2020-04-16  7:20                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-16 10:17                               ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-16 10:17                                 ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-16 12:38                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-16 12:38                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-16 14:52                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-16 14:52                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-16 15:58                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-16 15:58                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-04-16 18:05                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-16 18:05                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-16 18:38                                     ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-16 18:38                                       ` Saeed Mahameed
2020-04-16 15:12                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-16 15:12                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2020-04-16 18:21                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-16 18:21                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-16 19:56                                       ` Andrzej Hajda
2020-04-16 19:56                                         ` Andrzej Hajda

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