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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: "Jernej Škrabec" <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>
Cc: "Samuel Holland" <samuel@sholland.org>,
	"Chen-Yu Tsai" <wens@csie.org>,
	linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Paul Walmsley" <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"Albert Ou" <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	linux-riscv <linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	"Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS"
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/12] riscv: dts: allwinner: Add the D1 SoC base devicetree
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 13:40:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdVEjKnkj8JKpHUajU=xnDyuWeHmtrz0Y7qML+_XuCxDRg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2249129.ElGaqSPkdT@jernej-laptop>

Hi Jernej,

On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 11:28 AM Jernej Škrabec
<jernej.skrabec@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dne torek, 16. avgust 2022 ob 11:12:05 CEST je Heiko Stübner napisal(a):
> > Am Dienstag, 16. August 2022, 09:49:58 CEST schrieb Jernej Škrabec:
> > > Dne torek, 16. avgust 2022 ob 09:41:45 CEST je Krzysztof Kozlowski
> napisal(a):
> > > > On 15/08/2022 08:08, Samuel Holland wrote:
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       de: display-engine {
> > > > > +               compatible = "allwinner,sun20i-d1-display-engine";
> > > > > +               allwinner,pipelines = <&mixer0>, <&mixer1>;
> > > > > +               status = "disabled";
> > > > > +       };
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       osc24M: osc24M-clk {
> > > >
> > > > lowercase
> > > >
> > > > > +               compatible = "fixed-clock";
> > > > > +               clock-frequency = <24000000>;
> > > >
> > > > This is a property of the board, not SoC.
> > >
> > > SoC needs 24 MHz oscillator for correct operation, so each and every board
> > > has it. Having it here simplifies board DT files.
> >
> > I guess the oscillator is a separate component on each board, right?
>
> Correct.
>
> > And DT obvious is meant to describe the hardware - independently from
> > implementation-specific choices.
>
> There is no choice in this case. 24 MHz crystal has to be present.
>
> FWIW, including crystal node in SoC specific DTSI is already common pattern in
> Allwinner ARM SoC DTSI files.

I could also be a programmable clock generator on the board, programmed
to generate a 24 MHz clock on one of its outputs? Again, on the board.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: "Jernej Škrabec" <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>
Cc: "Samuel Holland" <samuel@sholland.org>,
	"Chen-Yu Tsai" <wens@csie.org>,
	linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Paul Walmsley" <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"Albert Ou" <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	linux-riscv <linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	"Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS"
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/12] riscv: dts: allwinner: Add the D1 SoC base devicetree
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 13:40:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdVEjKnkj8JKpHUajU=xnDyuWeHmtrz0Y7qML+_XuCxDRg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2249129.ElGaqSPkdT@jernej-laptop>

Hi Jernej,

On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 11:28 AM Jernej Škrabec
<jernej.skrabec@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dne torek, 16. avgust 2022 ob 11:12:05 CEST je Heiko Stübner napisal(a):
> > Am Dienstag, 16. August 2022, 09:49:58 CEST schrieb Jernej Škrabec:
> > > Dne torek, 16. avgust 2022 ob 09:41:45 CEST je Krzysztof Kozlowski
> napisal(a):
> > > > On 15/08/2022 08:08, Samuel Holland wrote:
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       de: display-engine {
> > > > > +               compatible = "allwinner,sun20i-d1-display-engine";
> > > > > +               allwinner,pipelines = <&mixer0>, <&mixer1>;
> > > > > +               status = "disabled";
> > > > > +       };
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       osc24M: osc24M-clk {
> > > >
> > > > lowercase
> > > >
> > > > > +               compatible = "fixed-clock";
> > > > > +               clock-frequency = <24000000>;
> > > >
> > > > This is a property of the board, not SoC.
> > >
> > > SoC needs 24 MHz oscillator for correct operation, so each and every board
> > > has it. Having it here simplifies board DT files.
> >
> > I guess the oscillator is a separate component on each board, right?
>
> Correct.
>
> > And DT obvious is meant to describe the hardware - independently from
> > implementation-specific choices.
>
> There is no choice in this case. 24 MHz crystal has to be present.
>
> FWIW, including crystal node in SoC specific DTSI is already common pattern in
> Allwinner ARM SoC DTSI files.

I could also be a programmable clock generator on the board, programmed
to generate a 24 MHz clock on one of its outputs? Again, on the board.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

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Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-15  5:08 [PATCH 00/12] riscv: Allwinner D1 platform support Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08 ` Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08 ` [PATCH 01/12] MAINTAINERS: Match the sun20i family of Allwinner SoCs Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08   ` Samuel Holland
2022-08-15 17:06   ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-15 17:06     ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-15  5:08 ` [PATCH 02/12] dt-bindings: riscv: Add T-HEAD C906 and C910 compatibles Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08   ` Samuel Holland
2022-08-15 17:07   ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-15 17:07     ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-16 17:34   ` Rob Herring
2022-08-16 17:34     ` Rob Herring
2022-11-04  2:57   ` Icenowy Zheng
2022-11-04  2:57     ` Icenowy Zheng
2022-11-20 11:23     ` Conor Dooley
2022-11-20 11:23       ` Conor Dooley
2022-11-20 11:25       ` Conor Dooley
2022-11-20 11:25         ` Conor Dooley
2022-08-15  5:08 ` [PATCH 03/12] dt-bindings: vendor-prefixes: Add Allwinner D1 board vendors Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08   ` Samuel Holland
2022-08-15 17:12   ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-15 17:12     ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-16 17:34   ` Rob Herring
2022-08-16 17:34     ` Rob Herring
2022-08-15  5:08 ` [PATCH 04/12] dt-bindings: riscv: Add Allwinner D1 board compatibles Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08   ` Samuel Holland
2022-08-16  7:39   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-16  7:39     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-16  9:02     ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-16  9:02       ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-16  9:12   ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-16  9:12     ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-16 17:35   ` Rob Herring
2022-08-16 17:35     ` Rob Herring
2022-08-15  5:08 ` [PATCH 05/12] riscv: Add the Allwinner SoC family Kconfig option Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08   ` Samuel Holland
2022-08-15 16:56   ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-15 16:56     ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-16  9:17     ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-16  9:17       ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-16  9:23       ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-16  9:23         ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-15 17:13   ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-15 17:13     ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-15  5:08 ` [PATCH 06/12] riscv: dts: allwinner: Add the D1 SoC base devicetree Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08   ` Samuel Holland
2022-08-15 13:11   ` Andre Przywara
2022-08-15 13:11     ` Andre Przywara
2022-08-15 17:01     ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-15 17:01       ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-20 17:24       ` Samuel Holland
2022-08-20 17:24         ` Samuel Holland
2022-08-20 17:29         ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-20 17:29           ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-21  6:45           ` Icenowy Zheng
2022-08-21  6:45             ` Icenowy Zheng
2022-08-21 10:04             ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-21 10:04               ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-22 11:46               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-22 11:46                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-22 12:13                 ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-22 12:13                   ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-22 12:29                   ` Andre Przywara
2022-08-22 12:29                     ` Andre Przywara
2022-08-22 12:31                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-22 12:31                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-22 13:56                     ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-22 13:56                       ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-22 15:29                       ` Jessica Clarke
2022-08-22 15:29                         ` Jessica Clarke
2022-09-09  3:42                         ` Samuel Holland
2022-09-09  3:42                           ` Samuel Holland
2022-09-09  7:10                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-09-09  7:10                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-09-21  7:49                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-09-21  7:49                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-22 10:50         ` Andre Przywara
2022-08-22 10:50           ` Andre Przywara
2022-08-16  7:41   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-16  7:41     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-16  7:49     ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-08-16  7:49       ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-08-16  9:12       ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-16  9:12         ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-16  9:25         ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-08-16  9:25           ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-08-16  9:42           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-16  9:42             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-16 11:00             ` Andre Przywara
2022-08-16 11:00               ` Andre Przywara
2022-08-16 11:11               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-16 11:11                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-16 11:12                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-16 11:12                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-16 11:34                   ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-16 11:34                     ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-22 11:40           ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2022-08-22 11:40             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-16  9:11   ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-16  9:11     ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-17  8:29   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-17  8:29     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-08-19 22:19   ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-19 22:19     ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-15  5:08 ` [PATCH 07/12] riscv: dts: allwinner: Add Allwinner D1 Nezha devicetree Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08   ` Samuel Holland
2022-08-15 17:37   ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-15 17:37     ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-15 18:34     ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-15 18:34       ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-16  8:55   ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-16  8:55     ` Heiko Stübner
2022-08-19 22:10   ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-19 22:10     ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-21  7:06     ` Icenowy Zheng
2022-08-21  7:06       ` Icenowy Zheng
2022-09-04 20:10     ` Peter Korsgaard
2022-09-04 20:10       ` Peter Korsgaard
2022-09-09  4:37     ` Samuel Holland
2022-09-09  4:37       ` Samuel Holland
2022-09-09  7:18       ` Conor.Dooley
2022-09-09  7:18         ` Conor.Dooley
2022-09-09  8:11         ` Heiko Stübner
2022-09-09  8:11           ` Heiko Stübner
2022-09-09 19:04           ` Jessica Clarke
2022-09-09 19:04             ` Jessica Clarke
2022-09-03 15:21   ` Peter Korsgaard
2022-09-03 15:21     ` Peter Korsgaard
2022-08-15  5:08 ` [PATCH 08/12] riscv: dts: allwinner: Add Sipeed Lichee RV devicetrees Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08   ` Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08 ` [PATCH 09/12] riscv: dts: allwinner: Add MangoPi MQ Pro devicetree Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08   ` Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08 ` [PATCH 10/12] riscv: dts: allwinner: Add Dongshan Nezha STU devicetree Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08   ` Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08 ` [PATCH 11/12] riscv: dts: allwinner: Add ClockworkPi and DevTerm devicetrees Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08   ` Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08 ` [PATCH 12/12] riscv: defconfig: Enable the Allwinner D1 platform and drivers Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  5:08   ` Samuel Holland
2022-08-15  7:05 ` [PATCH 00/12] riscv: Allwinner D1 platform support Conor.Dooley
2022-08-15  7:05   ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-15 17:12   ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-15 17:12     ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-16  2:42     ` Samuel Holland
2022-08-16  2:42       ` Samuel Holland
2022-08-16  6:38       ` Conor.Dooley
2022-08-16  6:38         ` Conor.Dooley
2022-09-01 18:10 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-09-01 18:10   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-09-02  5:42   ` Conor.Dooley
2022-09-02  5:42     ` Conor.Dooley
2022-09-06 20:29   ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-09-06 20:29     ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-09-07 20:43     ` Conor.Dooley
2022-09-07 20:43       ` Conor.Dooley
2022-09-08  7:00       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-09-08  7:00         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-09-08  9:04         ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-09-08  9:04           ` Arnd Bergmann

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