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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
Cc: "Javier Martinez Canillas" <javierm@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Simon Ser" <contact@emersion.fr>,
	"Linux PWM List" <linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux Fbdev development list" <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Noralf Trønnes" <noralf@tronnes.org>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@linux.ie>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"DRI Development" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Liam Girdwood" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <maxime@cerno.tech>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	"Thierry Reding" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	"Lee Jones" <lee.jones@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] drm/tiny: Add driver for Solomon SSD1307 OLED displays
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 12:07:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdX_uyEznHy5vYwS8Q=+bBKPddeJa41KTWi4Fwh3tjX+zQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220201124208.39c31e59@eldfell>

Hi Pekka,

On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 11:42 AM Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 10:49:03 +0100
> Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On 2/1/22 09:38, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 9:34 AM Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr> wrote:
> > >> On Tuesday, February 1st, 2022 at 09:26, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> > >>> What's the story with the Rn formats?
> > >>>
> > >>> The comments say "n bpp Red", while this is a monochrome (even
> > >>> inverted) display?
> > >>
> > >> I don't think the color matters that much. "Red" was picked just because it was
> > >> an arbitrary color, to make the difference with e.g. C8. Or am I mistaken?
> > >
> > > The red comes from gl, where with shaders it really doesn't matter
> > > what meaning you attach to channels, but really just how many you
> > > have. So 2-channel formats are called RxGx, 3-channel RxGxBx,
> > > 4-channel RxGxBxAx and single-channel Rx. And we use drm_fourcc for
> > > interop in general, hence why these exist.
> > >
> > > We should probably make a comment that this really isn't a red channel
> > > when used for display it's a greyscale/intensity format. Aside from
> > > that documentation gap I think reusing Rx formats for
> > > greyscale/intensity for display makes perfect sense.
> > > -Daniel
> >
> > To sump up the conversation in the #dri-devel channel, these drivers
> > should support the following formats:
> >
> > 1) Dx (Daniel suggested that for darkness, but inverted mono)
>
> Did you consider format C1 instead?

That would be a 2-color display, which is not necessarily black
and white. Cfr. Amiga or Atari bit planes with bpp=1.
That's why fbdev has separate visuals for monochrome.

> I have no idea how this would map to fbdev API though.

    #define FB_VISUAL_MONO01                0       /* Monochr.
1=Black 0=White */
    #define FB_VISUAL_MONO10                1       /* Monochr.
1=White 0=Black */
    #define FB_VISUAL_TRUECOLOR             2       /* True color   */

The above is RGB (or grayscale, see below).

    #define FB_VISUAL_PSEUDOCOLOR           3       /* Pseudo color
(like atari) */

Palette

    #define FB_VISUAL_DIRECTCOLOR           4       /* Direct color */

Usually used as RGB with gamma correction, but the actual hardware
is more flexible.

    #define FB_VISUAL_STATIC_PSEUDOCOLOR    5       /* Pseudo color readonly */

Fixed palette

And:

    struct fb_var_screeninfo {
            ...
            __u32 grayscale;                /* 0 = color, 1 = grayscale,    */

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
Cc: "Linux PWM List" <linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux Fbdev development list" <linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Liam Girdwood" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@linux.ie>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	"Javier Martinez Canillas" <javierm@redhat.com>,
	"DRI Development" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Noralf Trønnes" <noralf@tronnes.org>,
	"Thierry Reding" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	"Maxime Ripard" <maxime@cerno.tech>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	"Lee Jones" <lee.jones@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] drm/tiny: Add driver for Solomon SSD1307 OLED displays
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 12:07:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdX_uyEznHy5vYwS8Q=+bBKPddeJa41KTWi4Fwh3tjX+zQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220201124208.39c31e59@eldfell>

Hi Pekka,

On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 11:42 AM Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 10:49:03 +0100
> Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On 2/1/22 09:38, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 9:34 AM Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr> wrote:
> > >> On Tuesday, February 1st, 2022 at 09:26, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> > >>> What's the story with the Rn formats?
> > >>>
> > >>> The comments say "n bpp Red", while this is a monochrome (even
> > >>> inverted) display?
> > >>
> > >> I don't think the color matters that much. "Red" was picked just because it was
> > >> an arbitrary color, to make the difference with e.g. C8. Or am I mistaken?
> > >
> > > The red comes from gl, where with shaders it really doesn't matter
> > > what meaning you attach to channels, but really just how many you
> > > have. So 2-channel formats are called RxGx, 3-channel RxGxBx,
> > > 4-channel RxGxBxAx and single-channel Rx. And we use drm_fourcc for
> > > interop in general, hence why these exist.
> > >
> > > We should probably make a comment that this really isn't a red channel
> > > when used for display it's a greyscale/intensity format. Aside from
> > > that documentation gap I think reusing Rx formats for
> > > greyscale/intensity for display makes perfect sense.
> > > -Daniel
> >
> > To sump up the conversation in the #dri-devel channel, these drivers
> > should support the following formats:
> >
> > 1) Dx (Daniel suggested that for darkness, but inverted mono)
>
> Did you consider format C1 instead?

That would be a 2-color display, which is not necessarily black
and white. Cfr. Amiga or Atari bit planes with bpp=1.
That's why fbdev has separate visuals for monochrome.

> I have no idea how this would map to fbdev API though.

    #define FB_VISUAL_MONO01                0       /* Monochr.
1=Black 0=White */
    #define FB_VISUAL_MONO10                1       /* Monochr.
1=White 0=Black */
    #define FB_VISUAL_TRUECOLOR             2       /* True color   */

The above is RGB (or grayscale, see below).

    #define FB_VISUAL_PSEUDOCOLOR           3       /* Pseudo color
(like atari) */

Palette

    #define FB_VISUAL_DIRECTCOLOR           4       /* Direct color */

Usually used as RGB with gamma correction, but the actual hardware
is more flexible.

    #define FB_VISUAL_STATIC_PSEUDOCOLOR    5       /* Pseudo color readonly */

Fixed palette

And:

    struct fb_var_screeninfo {
            ...
            __u32 grayscale;                /* 0 = color, 1 = grayscale,    */

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-01 11:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-31 20:12 [PATCH 0/4] drm/tiny: Add driver for Solomon SSD1307 OLED displays Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 20:12 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 20:12 ` [PATCH 1/4] drm: Add I2C connector type Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 20:12   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 20:52   ` Sam Ravnborg
2022-01-31 23:26     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 23:26       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 12:58     ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-02-01 12:58       ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-02-01 13:06       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 13:20         ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-02-01 13:55           ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 13:38       ` Simon Ser
2022-02-01 13:38         ` Simon Ser
2022-02-01 14:20         ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-02-01 14:20           ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-02-01 20:57       ` Sam Ravnborg
2022-02-01 22:29         ` Simon Ser
2022-02-01 22:29           ` Simon Ser
2022-02-02  8:46           ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-02  8:46             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-02  9:14       ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-02  9:14         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-02  9:45         ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-02-02  9:45           ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-02-02 15:04           ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-02-02 15:04             ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-02-02 16:00             ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-02-02 16:00               ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-01-31 20:12 ` [PATCH 2/4] drm/format-helper: Add drm_fb_gray8_to_mono_reversed() Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 20:12   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01  9:59   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-01  9:59     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-01 11:13     ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-02-01 11:13       ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-02-01 11:48     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 11:48       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-14 13:40   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-14 13:40     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-03-14 14:07     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-03-14 14:07       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 20:36 ` [PATCH 0/4] drm/tiny: Add driver for Solomon SSD1307 OLED displays Simon Ser
2022-01-31 20:36   ` Simon Ser
2022-01-31 20:39   ` Simon Ser
2022-01-31 20:39     ` Simon Ser
2022-01-31 23:21     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 23:21       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01  8:26     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01  8:26       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01  8:34       ` Simon Ser
2022-02-01  8:34         ` Simon Ser
2022-02-01  8:36         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01  8:36           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 10:08           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-01 10:08             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-01 10:11             ` Simon Ser
2022-02-01 10:11               ` Simon Ser
2022-02-01 10:17               ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-01 10:17                 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-02-01  8:38         ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-01  8:38           ` Daniel Vetter
2022-02-01  9:49           ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01  9:49             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 10:42             ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-02-01 10:42               ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-02-01 11:07               ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2022-02-01 11:07                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-02  9:19                 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-02-02  9:19                   ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-02-02 10:55                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-02 10:55                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-31 20:56 ` Sam Ravnborg
2022-01-31 23:37   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-01-31 23:37     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01  9:37   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-01  9:37     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-01 11:31     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 11:31       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 11:38       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 11:38         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 13:09         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 13:09           ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 14:14           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 14:14             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01 15:03             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 15:03               ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 20:40               ` Sam Ravnborg
2022-02-01 20:40                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2022-02-02  8:38                 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-02  8:38                   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-02 11:06                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-02 11:06                     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-02 11:39                     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-02 11:39                       ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-02 11:50                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-02 11:50                         ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-02 11:54                         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-02 11:54                           ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-02 12:21                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-02 12:21                             ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-02-01  8:43 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01  8:43   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-02-01  9:27   ` Simon Ser
2022-02-01  9:27     ` Simon Ser
2022-02-01 10:36   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2022-02-01 10:36     ` Javier Martinez Canillas

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