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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: daniel@iogearbox.net
Cc: toke@redhat.com, kuba@kernel.org, lorenzo@kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org,
	lorenzo.bianconi@redhat.com, andrew@lunn.ch, brouer@redhat.com,
	dsahern@kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next] net: mvneta: align xdp stats naming scheme to mlx5 driver
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 15:48:28 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200218.154828.858448801341482999.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <703ce998-e454-713c-fc7a-d5f1609146d8@iogearbox.net>

From: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 00:19:36 +0100

> On 2/18/20 11:23 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>> Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> writes:
>>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 01:14:29 +0100 Lorenzo Bianconi wrote:
>>>> Introduce "rx" prefix in the name scheme for xdp counters
>>>> on rx path.
>>>> Differentiate between XDP_TX and ndo_xdp_xmit counters
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>
>>>
>>> Sorry for coming in late.
>>>
>>> I thought the ability to attach a BPF program to a fexit of another
>>> BPF
>>> program will put an end to these unnecessary statistics. IOW I
>>> maintain
>>> my position that there should be no ethtool stats for XDP.
>>>
>>> As discussed before real life BPF progs will maintain their own stats
>>> at the granularity of their choosing, so we're just wasting datapath
>>> cycles.
> 
> +1

Bugs in bpf programs leading to lack of fundamental statistics.

I think that is absolutely the wrong tradeoff.

And if performance is a concern, we can have a knob to turn off
the xdp counter bumps.  This is something I totally support.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-02-18 23:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-18  0:14 [RFC net-next] net: mvneta: align xdp stats naming scheme to mlx5 driver Lorenzo Bianconi
2020-02-18  3:12 ` David Ahern
2020-02-18 17:02 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-02-18 17:17   ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2020-02-18 17:48     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-02-18 18:03       ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2020-02-18 21:29 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-18 22:23   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-18 23:19     ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-02-18 23:24       ` David Ahern
2020-02-18 23:49         ` David Miller
2020-02-18 23:48       ` David Miller [this message]
2020-02-18 23:47     ` David Miller
2020-02-19  3:31       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-19  8:26       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer

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