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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org,
	davem@davemloft.net, lorenzo.bianconi@redhat.com, andrew@lunn.ch,
	brouer@redhat.com, dsahern@kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next] net: mvneta: align xdp stats naming scheme to mlx5 driver
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 23:23:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87eeury1ph.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200218132921.46df7f8b@kicinski-fedora-PC1C0HJN>

Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> writes:

> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 01:14:29 +0100 Lorenzo Bianconi wrote:
>> Introduce "rx" prefix in the name scheme for xdp counters
>> on rx path.
>> Differentiate between XDP_TX and ndo_xdp_xmit counters
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>
>
> Sorry for coming in late.
>
> I thought the ability to attach a BPF program to a fexit of another BPF
> program will put an end to these unnecessary statistics. IOW I maintain
> my position that there should be no ethtool stats for XDP.
>
> As discussed before real life BPF progs will maintain their own stats
> at the granularity of their choosing, so we're just wasting datapath
> cycles.
>
> The previous argument that the BPF prog stats are out of admin control
> is no longer true with the fexit option (IIUC how that works).

So you're proposing an admin that wants to keep track of XDP has to
(permantently?) attach an fexit program to every running XDP program and
use that to keep statistics? But presumably he'd first need to discover
that XDP is enabled; which the ethtool stats is a good hint for :)

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-18 22:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-18  0:14 [RFC net-next] net: mvneta: align xdp stats naming scheme to mlx5 driver Lorenzo Bianconi
2020-02-18  3:12 ` David Ahern
2020-02-18 17:02 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-02-18 17:17   ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2020-02-18 17:48     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-02-18 18:03       ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2020-02-18 21:29 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-18 22:23   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2020-02-18 23:19     ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-02-18 23:24       ` David Ahern
2020-02-18 23:49         ` David Miller
2020-02-18 23:48       ` David Miller
2020-02-18 23:47     ` David Miller
2020-02-19  3:31       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-19  8:26       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer

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