From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com> To: git@vger.kernel.org Cc: tytso@mit.edu, "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>, "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>, "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>, "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com> Subject: [RFC PATCH 2/2] core.fsyncObjectFiles: make the docs less flippant Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 13:28:30 +0200 Message-ID: <20200917112830.26606-3-avarab@gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <87sgbghdbp.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com> As amusing as Linus's original prose[1] is here it doesn't really explain in any detail to the uninitiated why you would or wouldn't enable this, and the counter-intuitive reason for why git wouldn't fsync your precious data. So elaborate (a lot) on why this may or may not be needed. This is my best-effort attempt to summarize the various points raised in the last ML[2] discussion about this. 1. aafe9fbaf4 ("Add config option to enable 'fsync()' of object files", 2008-06-18) 2. https://lore.kernel.org/git/20180117184828.31816-1-hch@lst.de/ Signed-off-by: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> --- Documentation/config/core.txt | 42 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----- 1 file changed, 36 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-) diff --git a/Documentation/config/core.txt b/Documentation/config/core.txt index 74619a9c03..5b47670c16 100644 --- a/Documentation/config/core.txt +++ b/Documentation/config/core.txt @@ -548,12 +548,42 @@ core.whitespace:: errors. The default tab width is 8. Allowed values are 1 to 63. core.fsyncObjectFiles:: - This boolean will enable 'fsync()' when writing object files. -+ -This is a total waste of time and effort on a filesystem that orders -data writes properly, but can be useful for filesystems that do not use -journalling (traditional UNIX filesystems) or that only journal metadata -and not file contents (OS X's HFS+, or Linux ext3 with "data=writeback"). + This boolean will enable 'fsync()' when writing loose object + files. Both the file itself and its containng directory will + be fsynced. ++ +When git writes data any required object writes will precede the +corresponding reference update(s). For example, a +linkgit:git-receive-pack[1] accepting a push might write a pack or +loose objects (depending on settings such as `transfer.unpackLimit`). ++ +Therefore on a journaled file system which ensures that data is +flushed to disk in chronological order an fsync shouldn't be +needed. The loose objects might be lost with a crash, but so will the +ref update that would have referenced them. Git's own state in such a +crash will remain consistent. ++ +This option exists because that assumption doesn't hold on filesystems +where the data ordering is not preserved, such as on ext3 and ext4 +with "data=writeback". On such a filesystem the `rename()` that drops +the new reference in place might be preserved, but the contents or +directory entry for the loose object(s) might not have been synced to +disk. ++ +Enabling this option might slow git down by a lot in some +cases. E.g. in the case of a naïve bulk import tool which might create +a million loose objects before a final ref update and `gc`. In other +more common cases such as on a server being pushed to with default +`transfer.unpackLimit` settings the difference might not be noticable. ++ +However, that's highly filesystem-dependent, on some filesystems +simply calling fsync() might force an unrelated bulk background write +to be serialized to disk. Such edge cases are the reason this option +is off by default. That default setting might change in future +versions. ++ +In older versions of git only the descriptor for the file itself was +fsynced, not its directory entry. core.preloadIndex:: Enable parallel index preload for operations like 'git diff' -- 2.28.0.297.g1956fa8f8d
next prev parent reply index Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2018-01-17 18:48 [PATCH] enable core.fsyncObjectFiles by default Christoph Hellwig 2018-01-17 19:04 ` Junio C Hamano 2018-01-17 19:35 ` Christoph Hellwig 2018-01-17 20:05 ` Andreas Schwab 2018-01-17 19:37 ` Matthew Wilcox 2018-01-17 19:42 ` Christoph Hellwig 2018-01-17 21:44 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2018-01-17 22:07 ` Linus Torvalds 2018-01-17 22:25 ` Linus Torvalds 2018-01-17 23:16 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2018-01-17 23:42 ` Linus Torvalds 2018-01-17 23:52 ` Theodore Ts'o 2018-01-17 23:57 ` Linus Torvalds 2018-01-18 16:27 ` Christoph Hellwig 2018-01-19 19:08 ` Junio C Hamano 2018-01-20 22:14 ` Theodore Ts'o 2018-01-20 22:27 ` Junio C Hamano 2018-01-22 15:09 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2018-01-22 18:09 ` Theodore Ts'o 2018-01-23 0:47 ` Jeff King 2018-01-23 5:45 ` Theodore Ts'o 2018-01-23 16:17 ` Jeff King 2018-01-23 0:25 ` Jeff King 2018-01-21 21:32 ` Chris Mason 2020-09-17 11:06 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2020-09-17 11:28 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] should core.fsyncObjectFiles fsync the dir entry + docs Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2020-09-17 11:28 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] sha1-file: fsync() loose dir entry when core.fsyncObjectFiles Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2020-09-17 13:16 ` Jeff King 2020-09-17 15:09 ` Christoph Hellwig 2020-09-17 14:09 ` Christoph Hellwig 2020-09-17 14:55 ` Jeff King 2020-09-17 14:56 ` Christoph Hellwig 2020-09-17 15:37 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-09-17 17:12 ` Jeff King 2020-09-17 20:37 ` Taylor Blau 2020-09-22 10:42 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2020-09-17 20:21 ` Johannes Sixt 2020-09-22 8:24 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2020-11-19 11:38 ` Johannes Schindelin 2020-09-17 11:28 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message] 2020-09-17 14:12 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] core.fsyncObjectFiles: make the docs less flippant Christoph Hellwig 2020-09-17 15:43 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-09-17 20:15 ` Johannes Sixt 2020-10-08 8:13 ` Johannes Schindelin 2020-10-08 15:57 ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 2020-10-08 18:53 ` Junio C Hamano 2020-10-09 10:44 ` Johannes Schindelin 2020-09-17 19:21 ` Marc Branchaud 2020-09-17 14:14 ` [PATCH] enable core.fsyncObjectFiles by default Christoph Hellwig 2020-09-17 15:30 ` Junio C Hamano 2018-01-17 20:55 ` Jeff King 2018-01-17 21:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
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